What is your wishlist for future Funtouch/system firmware updates ?

blackinfinity

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So it looks like Vivo seem to take some what good care about the updates so far and android 9 is promised to be delivered to us for Q4.

So what is your wishlist or recommendation that vivo should work on for future firmware updates ?

I have the chinese version myself and I realize that those with a global version have a vastly different experience then those global users with the Chinese rom.
So Please tell us what you are using also...some of the stuff is fixed in the global version.

Funtouch is getting a lot of criticism for being a iOS look a like, personally I find it not to be a negative thing, transparent UI feels more timeless to me, it looks more modern, while the android vanilla looks to me kind of dated and where not much have happen in the last 5 years. I also like that the design is kind of streamlined, I used textra sms app before but now I think the stock sms app looks better in conjunction with the rest of the UI experience. So I dont mind they dont use material design. I really like the control panel swipe from left button its more ergonomic and smart then swiping from top. I dont like the stock launcher, just as with the other chinese launchers like miui, emui etc I dont like the folders I dont want the folder to pop up in the middle of the screen its just less ergonomic and less easy to reach, that is why I use Rootless Pixel Launcher.
 
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Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.

I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.

I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3

They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.

But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.

They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!

I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.

Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.

It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.

Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.

They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.

Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.

All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.

From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.


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Notifications from external applications are what is missing from the AOD. If not for the smartwatch, I do not know how I could do it without notifications.

I sorry for my English, I use Google Translator.
 
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I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good::)
 
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blackinfinity

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Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.

I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.

I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3

They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.

But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.

They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!

I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.

Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.

It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.

Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.

They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.

Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.

All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.

From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.


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I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.

Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?

We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
 

blackinfinity

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I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good::)
If you have performance problem I think it might depend on what permissions you gave to the apps, I did try to give all apps with push notifcations "startup" permission I saw a drastic change in battery life, its this permission I think make it lay constantly in background and talk and syncing with all google apps in background constantly, with it on I got a more "normal" battery life from what I usually get from a phone sold in the west. Be also careful with what apps you give "allow high power consumption in background", in my findings, as long as you have the "autostart" permissions you dont need to have it added in the "allow high power consumption" list if its is chat apps, the only expection here is multimedia apps for video and audio this are the apps that most be added in this list otherwise to break..
When I added "Start up" permission to too many apps I did experience the phone to feel more "heavy" and not as fast...
 

paatha13

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I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.



Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?



We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
According to Vivo support the software update that supposedly brings support LDAC is fake.




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blackinfinity

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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
 

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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.

It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.

When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.

I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.

To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.


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blackinfinity

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I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.

It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.

When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.

I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.

To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.


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Thanks for the information I did read some other person who did disable wisdom engine without any problems but now I will not consider to disable it...
 

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the main items on my wishlist:

- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp

- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo

- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60

- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
 
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paatha13

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Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.

Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.

So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.

Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.



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hamdir

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Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.

Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.

So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.

Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
 
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ruk21201

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the main items on my wishlist:

- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp

- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo

- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60

- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
When I look at my global version of my vivo NEX S I don't see or feel an IOS device maybe change your launcher, this is android you have a choice.
 

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