What kernels to use for ICS roms

RPK925

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Hi I'm new to using Samsung phones, always had Moto. Is Entropys ZombieAss kernel the only kernel that I can flash ICS(new official ICS ROM ect.) roms on with CWM, or are there more? I'm unrooted on stock 2.3.4, any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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Hi I'm new to using Samsung phones, always had Moto. Is Entropys ZombieAss kernel the only kernel that I can flash ICS(new official ICS ROM ect.) roms on with CWM, or are there more? I'm unrooted on stock 2.3.4, any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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You can flash almost any ROM with almost any kernel, but ZombieAss will boot and run recent i9100 based ROMs. As in, you can't use ZombieAss with the official ICS ROMs from AT&T. If you're on stock 2.3.4, you can go ahead and flash any ICS ROM from their threads as long as it's for our phone -- the i777. They should automagically flash an ICS kernel.

In short, use ICS kernels with ICS roms, Gingerbread kernels with Gingerbread roms, but any kernel with CWM can flash anything without trouble.
 

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Just pick your ROM and go in my opinion! pretty much all of the ICS ROMs include a kernel that will include CWM. (exception being the ATT leaks, but i believe even the one built by Task650 includes a kernel with CWM)
 

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I use overclocked kernels by SebastianFM on Android Revolution HD ROMs. Combination of the two works best for me.
You can also check out faux123's released kernels. Also very nice work (with ZRAM)
Think you might be lost :).. Everything you referenced was for the HTC Sensation. :D

To the OP,, do not flash sensation things! I'd assume they'd fail to install anyways,, but if they didn't,, you might be in for fun!
 

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You can flash almost any ROM with almost any kernel, but ZombieAss will boot and run recent i9100 based ROMs. As in, you can't use ZombieAss with the official ICS ROMs from AT&T. If you're on stock 2.3.4, you can go ahead and flash any ICS ROM from their threads as long as it's for our phone -- the i777. They should automagically flash an ICS kernel.

In short, use ICS kernels with ICS roms, Gingerbread kernels with Gingerbread roms, but any kernel with CWM can flash anything without trouble.
Just to be sure though, first I have to flash a kernel with Odin that has CWM, then flash a ROM directly from internal/external sd? Or. Can I just flash a any ROM with Odin? . Just don't want to mess up and have to use the return to stock method. Thanks

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Just to be sure though, first I have to flash a kernel with Odin that has CWM, then flash a ROM directly from internal/external sd? Or. Can I just flash a any ROM with Odin? . Just don't want to mess up and have to use the return to stock method. Thanks

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Once you have CWM (any CWM), you can go pretty much anywhere without returning to stock.

People that complain about bootloops didn't know the most basic rule of flashing:

ALWAYS WIPE DATA IN CWM WHEN SWITCHING FIRMWARES! (usually no wiping needed when switching kernels though.)

Suggested order, in my opinion:
Flash a Gingerbread kernel with CWM, such as my Daily Driver for Gingerbread
Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup (Backup and Restore in CWM) - Enter CWM using the three-finger combo, NOT via ROM Manager
Once you've done a backup - flash something. If it's in these forums, it should be safe. I suggest reading the threads for various releases to get a feel for things. Don't ask what's best - that is a matter of taste.
 
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RPK925

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Once you have CWM (any CWM), you can go pretty much anywhere without returning to stock.

People that complain about bootloops didn't know the most basic rule of flashing:

ALWAYS WIPE DATA IN CWM WHEN SWITCHING FIRMWARES! (usually no wiping needed when switching kernels though.)

Suggested order, in my opinion:
Flash a Gingerbread kernel with CWM, such as my Daily Driver for Gingerbread
Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup (Backup and Restore in CWM) - Enter CWM using the three-finger combo, NOT via ROM Manager
Once you've done a backup - flash something. If it's in these forums, it should be safe. I suggest reading the threads for various releases to get a feel for things. Don't ask what's best - that is a matter of taste.
Thanks for help. Can I flash your daily driver with Odin since I don't have CWM yet? I downloaded the current version and it is a .zip, not a .tar file. Thanks

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Thanks for help. Can I flash your daily driver with Odin since I don't have CWM yet? I downloaded the current version and it is a .zip, not a .tar file. Thanks

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DON'T use Odin from your computer! Using Odin trips the flash counter and that'll probably give you headaches later. Use Mobile Odin instead, you can find it here under Step 3a, it allows you to flash zip files (lite version is free, allows you to flash only kernels from the phone itself) :)
 

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DON'T use Odin from your computer! Using Odin trips the flash counter and that'll probably give you headaches later. Use Mobile Odin instead, you can find it here under Step 3a, it allows you to flash zip files (lite version is free, allows you to flash only kernels from the phone itself) :)
I'm not rooted yet though. Any suggestions.

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I'm not rooted yet though. Any suggestions.

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Read same thread. Steps 2a-d detail four different ways to root. I think you would do well to read the thread's OP in it's entirety a few times before you try anything.

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There is one tar ball available for Entropy's daily driver kernel. It's the top one in the list of downloads, named DD_01232012.tar. If you flash it, you will increment the flash counter and invoke the yellow warning triangle on boot, but you can reset the flash counter and remove the yellow triangle with a usb jig, or if you install ICS on the phone, you can get the same result using chainfire's Triangle Away application. And by all means, read the full OP of my guides, and any other follow up information you can find, so that you will have a solid foundation for making decisions as you go forward.
 
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Thanks for help. Can I flash your daily driver with Odin since I don't have CWM yet? I downloaded the current version and it is a .zip, not a .tar file. Thanks

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Right now only my Gingerbread kernels have a .tar download available.

It is my opinion that no one should be going straight to ICS yet without already having some experience with kernel flashing/installing CWM/nandroiding their current Gingerbread firmware as a backup/properly testing custom firmwares, which is why only my Gingerbread kernels have .tar files. ICS on our devices is still too new.

DON'T use Odin from your computer! Using Odin trips the flash counter and that'll probably give you headaches later. Use Mobile Odin instead, you can find it here under Step 3a, it allows you to flash zip files (lite version is free, allows you to flash only kernels from the phone itself) :)
Triangle Away will reset that on ICS.
 

RPK925

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Right now only my Gingerbread kernels have a .tar download available.

It is my opinion that no one should be going straight to ICS yet without already having some experience with kernel flashing/installing CWM/nandroiding their current Gingerbread firmware as a backup/properly testing custom firmwares, which is why only my Gingerbread kernels have .tar files. ICS on our devices is still too new.


Triangle Away will reset that on ICS.
Thanks for all the help. I actually downloaded mobile odin, then used doomlords easy rooting tool, then flashed, I forgot the name but it was something like "one kernel to rule the all", flashed with mobile odin, and got CWM, then installed you current daily driver, made a Nandroid backup, and now I'm ready to flash. I had one more question, what is the difference between the regular Nandroid backup and the advanced? And should I be backing up regular, or the advanced way?

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