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Hi everyone,

This thread is a continuation of this thread.

This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

*NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
 
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Shadowthor

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These are the options i see:
- Poco F2 PRO (almost identical to my 9t pro but with updates, it still has a jack and pop up camera which are a big +) -
- Poco F3 (I don't really like the camera hole, the fact that it looks cheap and has plastic plus I understood that it would have a camera under poco f2, what I like instead is the screen and cpu sd870 and it is perfectly praised and publicized)
- Oneplus 8 / 8T (seems to be the most premium, big + for oxygenos, as aspects against it is the camera hole and other details I don't really know about it ...)
- Xiaomi MI 10, it looks ok as specs but I don't know many details about it either

What recommendations, tips do you have?
Do you plan to run a custom rom on the new phone? If yes, choose one that is custom rom friendly. Any of the ones you have indicated are fine. Also, a lot of brands are releasing new phones coming up in q3 and q4 which should drive down prices for the phones released earlier. The oneplus 8T has dropped quite a bit.
 

RootNightmareX

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Do you plan to run a custom rom on the new phone? If yes, choose one that is custom rom friendly. Any of the ones you have indicated are fine. Also, a lot of brands are releasing new phones coming up in q3 and q4 which should drive down prices for the phones released earlier. The oneplus 8T has dropped quite a bit.
Usually I use, I had a mi9tp and I was ok with xiaomi.eu
I will buy them sh so it doesn’t matter the price.
Which one you recommend me? I realy don’t like camera holes that’s why I want more a f2pro but it’s worth it to sacrifice this for the others?
Xiaomi mi 10 it’s good option? It’s like 100€ difference from f2pro.
One plus I read it’s very average battery and camera too
 

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Huawei Y5 (2017)
I've been happy with a Huawei Y5 II but, unfortunately, Huawei stopped providing unlock codes and it is a vendor-locked device so I'm not sure I could even root it to get a custom ROM. I'm not sure that there are custom ROMs for this device, but rooting I could at least free up some space. As it is I'm always dancing around with space cleaning tools and moving apps (that allow it) to external SD card.

So I'm considering a new device. Maybe one of the following:
  • Samsung S21 5G
  • Oppo Find X3 Lite
  • Google Pixel 5 5G
My main question is: which of these brands is more root-/unlock-/custom-ROM-friendly?

I'm future-proofing, so i'm looking for devices with 5G, eSIM and real GNSS. Also,
  • the more battery-efficiency the better
  • while any device has a minimum 128GB of storage and most will say that's enough (so I could do without a card slot or USB OTG), I don't trust Android to stop hogging that space for system-specific cruft that I can't delete, so preferably with a card slot (but if it's easy to root at least I can delete whichever vendor- and Google-crap comes included)
  • preferably a reasonable form-factor, I don't want to walk around with a rearview mirror
I don't care about:
  • fancy screen resolution: I don' watch videos on my phone
  • camera quality: all of them more than suffice for the occasional selfie
  • the latest and greatest GPU: I don't game on my phone
I do care about privacy and security, so barring a Nokia 3210 I'll quickly consider rooting the phone once the warranty expires. Maybe I'll replace the stock OS with GrapheneOS, LineageOS, CalyxOS or somesuch.

Are the Pine Phone, Volla Phone or similar stable enough as daily drivers?
 

Shadowthor

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I've been happy with a Huawei Y5 II but, unfortunately, Huawei stopped providing unlock codes and it is a vendor-locked device so I'm not sure I could even root it to get a custom ROM. I'm not sure that there are custom ROMs for this device, but rooting I could at least free up some space. As it is I'm always dancing around with space cleaning tools and moving apps (that allow it) to external SD card.

So I'm considering a new device. Maybe one of the following:
  • Samsung S21 5G
  • Oppo Find X3 Lite
  • Google Pixel 5 5G
My main question is: which of these brands is more root-/unlock-/custom-ROM-friendly?

I'm future-proofing, so i'm looking for devices with 5G, eSIM and real GNSS. Also,
  • the more battery-efficiency the better
  • while any device has a minimum 128GB of storage and most will say that's enough (so I could do without a card slot or USB OTG), I don't trust Android to stop hogging that space for system-specific cruft that I can't delete, so preferably with a card slot (but if it's easy to root at least I can delete whichever vendor- and Google-crap comes included)
  • preferably a reasonable form-factor, I don't want to walk around with a rearview mirror
I don't care about:
  • fancy screen resolution: I don' watch videos on my phone
  • camera quality: all of them more than suffice for the occasional selfie
  • the latest and greatest GPU: I don't game on my phone
I do care about privacy and security, so barring a Nokia 3210 I'll quickly consider rooting the phone once the warranty expires. Maybe I'll replace the stock OS with GrapheneOS, LineageOS, CalyxOS or somesuch.

Are the Pine Phone, Volla Phone or similar stable enough as daily drivers?
Do you have a budget or as long as it has those features you are ok with any phone? If you are thinking of flashing custom roms, don't consider Samsung as its a bit more challenging nowadays.
 

Shadowthor

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Usually I use, I had a mi9tp and I was ok with xiaomi.eu
I will buy them sh so it doesn’t matter the price.
Which one you recommend me? I realy don’t like camera holes that’s why I want more a f2pro but it’s worth it to sacrifice this for the others?
Xiaomi mi 10 it’s good option? It’s like 100€ difference from f2pro.
One plus I read it’s very average battery and camera too
Since you like Xiaomi, maybe consider the Xiaomi 11 5G model. It would be a little bit future proof depending if it supports the 5G bands in your country.
 

RootNightmareX

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I want a new phone. Please help me with opinions :)
- Poco F2 PRO (almost identical to my 9t pro but with updates, it still has a jack and pop up camera which are a big +) -
- Poco F3 (I don't really like the camera hole, the fact that it looks cheap and has plastic plus I understood that it would have a camera under poco f2, what I like instead is the screen and cpu sd870 and it is perfectly praised and publicized)
- Oneplus 8 / 8T (seems to be the most premium, big + for oxygenos, as aspects against it is the camera hole and other details I don't really know about it ...)
- Xiaomi MI 10, it looks ok as specs but I don't know many details about it either
 

Shadowthor

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I want a new phone. Please help me with opinions :)
- Poco F2 PRO (almost identical to my 9t pro but with updates, it still has a jack and pop up camera which are a big +) -
- Poco F3 (I don't really like the camera hole, the fact that it looks cheap and has plastic plus I understood that it would have a camera under poco f2, what I like instead is the screen and cpu sd870 and it is perfectly praised and publicized)
- Oneplus 8 / 8T (seems to be the most premium, big + for oxygenos, as aspects against it is the camera hole and other details I don't really know about it ...)
- Xiaomi MI 10, it looks ok as specs but I don't know many details about it either
Just go with the Oneplus 8 or 8T, you can't go wrong with that.
 

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Hi guys. I'm wanting to know something: what is a good, relatively current phone that still has an SD card slot and a microphone jack?

I am currently using a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus. I love it, it's probably the best Android device I've ever used, but the battery is draining from 100 percent to 80 within a couple of hours now just doing normal tasks, and I have a strong feeling that the battery just isn't going to last much longer. I am planning on replacing the battery whenever that happens, but I have never been good at taking things apart and putting them back together, especially things with small component parts (I have bad myopia and my hands shake). So, I need to have a backup plan in case i screw it up.

I should get this out of the way first: I am never, ever going to use a smartphone without both a micro SD card slot and a headphone jack. Cloud storage, in my own opinion, is a complete joke as well as a swindle, since you have to continously keep paying for the service or they delete your stuff, and there's no privacy involved. I realize that not everyone agrees with me on that, but no matter what everyone else thinks I will just never feel comfortable doing it except in very sparing amounts (such as storing an mp3 or wallpaper on a service like gdrive). As for the headphone jack, the price of wireless earbuds can be exorbitant, and its just not worth the price to me. Add in the fact that the removal of SD slots and headphone jacks blatantly seem designed by phone manufacturers to strong-arm consumers into signing up for cloud storage services and high priced wireless earbuds, and the whole issue has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding phone manufacturers, and it has also made me cynically look at companies that I once enjoyed the products of, such as Samsung, in a negative light.

So, with that out of the way, I will be in the market for an updated replacement for my S9 Plus soon. I'm not one to buy the newest flagship phones, since money is an issue and I don't need to have the newest version of Android, but I would like to get a phone that will stay relevant (even if its not cutting edge) for at least 2 or 3 years before it becomes totally outdated and obsolete, plus I need the aforementioned SD card slot and headphone jack. Could someone please give me some examples of a good phone to buy thst matches those specifications? Thank you in advance to all who cam help.

As an aside, I am a total and complete newbie to rooting and phone hacking, but when I do get the replacement phone and everything on the D9 Plus gets moved over to it, I am looking forward to installing LegacyOS on the S9 Plus. I just hope that I don't brick it, since this phone has been awesome :)
 
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Hi guys. I'm wanting to know something: what is a good, relatively current phone that still has an SD card slot and a microphone jack?

I am currently using a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus. I love it, it's probably the best Android device I've ever used, but the battery is draining from 100 percent to 80 within a couple of hours now just doing normal tasks, and I have a strong feeling that the battery just isn't going to last much longer. I am planning on replacing the battery whenever that happens, but I have never been good at taking things apart and putting them back together, especially things with small component parts (I have bad myopia and my hands shake). So, I need to have a backup plan in case i screw it up.

I should get this out of the way first: I am never, ever going to use a smartphone without both a micro SD card slot and a headphone jack. Cloud storage, in my own opinion, is a complete joke as well as a swindle, since you have to continously keep paying for the service or they delete your stuff, and there's no privacy involved. I realize that not everyone agrees with me on that, but no matter what everyone else thinks I will just never feel comfortable doing it except in very sparing amounts (such as storing an mp3 or wallpaper on a service like gdrive). As for the headphone jack, the price of wireless earbuds can be exorbitant, and its just not worth the price to me. Add in the fact that the removal of SD slots and headphone jacks blatantly seem designed by phone manufacturers to strong-arm consumers into signing up for cloud storage services and high priced wireless earbuds, and the whole issue has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding phone manufacturers, and it has also made me cynically look at companies that I once enjoyed the products of, such as Samsung, in a negative light.

So, with that out of the way, I will be in the market for an updated replacement for my S9 Plus soon. I'm not one to buy the newest flagship phones, since money is an issue and I don't need to have the newest version of Android, but I would like to get a phone that will stay relevant (even if its not cutting edge) for at least 2 or 3 years before it becomes totally outdated and obsolete, plus I need the aforementioned SD card slot and headphone jack. Could someone please give me some examples of a good phone to buy thst matches those specifications? Thank you in advance to all who cam help.

As an aside, I am a total and complete newbie to rooting and phone hacking, but when I do get the replacement phone and everything on the D9 Plus gets moved over to it, I am looking forward to installing LegacyOS on the S9 Plus. I just hope that I don't brick it, since this phone has been awesome :)

Just replace the battery before it fails and maybe damages or destroys the device.

Between Android 10 and especially 11 the Android OS has gone south.
Samsung is spewing out of bad hardware this year. Two dropped balls.
I have a Note 10+ 512gb still running on Pie, fast and very stable even after over a year on it's current load. The phone has held up extremely well with zero issues. Replaced the battery about 3 months ago... no big deal.
I'm seriously considering getting a 2nd one.

The Note 20U is nice but it comes loaded with Q and the price hasn't dropped much.
I like it's spen's enhances speed but the 10+ is just a more stable platform I think. Display issues have plagued the variable frequency displays and there's been a lot of issues with the 5G implementation. Not sure the 20U is free of those. It's camera hump is awkward and the 10+ grabs great images with none of the hype features.
You can grab a Note 10+ 512 Snapdragon for half the price of a 20U.
 
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Just replace the battery before it fails and maybe damages or destroys the device.

Between Android 10 and especially 11 the Android OS has gone south.
Samsung is spewing out of bad hardware this year. Two dropped balls.
I have a Note 10+ 512gb still running on Pie, fast and very stable even after over a year on it's current load. The phone has held up extremely well with zero issues. Replaced the battery about 3 months ago... no big deal.
I'm seriously considering getting a 2nd one.

The Note 20U is nice but it comes loaded with Q and the price hasn't dropped much.
I like it's spen's enhances speed but the 10+ is just a more stable platform I think. Display issues have plagued the variable frequency displays and there's been a lot of issues with the 5G implementation. Not sure the 20U is free of those. It's camera hump is awkward and the 10+ grabs great images with none of the hype features.
You can grab a Note 10+ 512 Snapdragon for half the price of a 20U.
Thank you very much for the advice. I'm dreading it because my hands are so shaky, but I guess I'm going to have to replace that battery sooner or later, no getting around it...

I've actually never owned a Note before. I'm kind of a luddite when it comes to phones, I've been using PCs since the early nineties but I had a flip phone for the longest time. It was the early 2010s before I got my first Android device, and it was a tablet; I had a few of those when I got my first real phone which was the Galaxy S7. My S9 plus is the first one I ever really fell in love with. Sorry for the life story ;) Anyway, how would you compare Notes to Galaxy S phones as far as the user experience goes? Is there anything that I would be really unfamiliar with?

Thanks again for replying, I've got my phone in my hands all day but I've never rooted or hacked a phone or anything like that. So I'm a beginner to this scene.
 
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Thank you very much for the advice. I'm dreading it because my hands are so shaky, but I guess I'm going to have to replace that battery sooner or later, no getting around it...

I've actually never owned a Note before. I'm kind of a luddite when it comes to phones, I've been using PCs since the early nineties but I had a flip phone for the longest time. It was the early 2010s before I got my first Android device, and it was a tablet; I had a few of those when I got my first real phone which was the Galaxy S7. My S9 plus is the first one I ever really fell in love with. Sorry for the life story ;) Anyway, how would you compare Notes to Galaxy S phones as far as the user experience goes? Is there anything that I would be really unfamiliar with?

Thanks again for replying, I've got my phone in my hands all day but I've never rooted or hacked a phone or anything like that. So I'm a beginner to this scene.
You're welcome.

I haven't rooted. The stock 10+ runs well after some heavy reconfiguration and a package Disabler.
I loath the S series because of the rounded display corners, it was hate at first sight. The 10+'s display is drop dead gorgeous. Colors and gamma are spot on.

You want an SD card slot. Class V30 cards run well and are relatively cheap. The 1tb ones are now going for under $200.
So using the SD card as your data drive... you now have a 1.5tb dual drive computer in your hand.
I keep everything I need for a reload and all critical data on the SD card, which is backed up redundantly to hdds.
Only the OS, apps and temporary folders go on the internal memory.

Pie has no CPU cycle wasting scoped storage and supports trusted overlay apps. It allows more permissions for trusted 3rd party apps like Karma Firewall so it's fully functional. The security hype with Q and 11 is just that. In over a year and a half I never had to do a forced reload due to malware. Pie is still my preferred Android version.
 
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Reliable updates. I'm not sure if the phone has support for it, but maybe look into gcam mod. It might help.

I'm waiting for my Motorola Edge S to arrive to see how that is. I'll keep you posted if its a better option.
Updates are way overrated. They can and do break phones.
If your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.

My Note 10+ running on Pie hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years. The current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. No malware forced reloads in 7 years of using Androids all running on either Kitkat and more recently Pie, Android's best OS in my opinion.
Security is not an issue unless you do something stupid. No update will protect you from that...
 

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Updates are way overrated. They can and do break phones.
If your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.

My Note 10+ running on Pie hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years. The current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. No malware forced reloads in 7 years of using Androids all running on either Kitkat and more recently Pie, Android's best OS in my opinion.
Security is not an issue unless you do something stupid. No update will protect you from that...
Any software updates has the potential to break phones or introduce new bugs but it doesn't mean that all of them will. Sometimes software updates are needed due to serious bugs/holes in the OS. It also depends on the manufacturer that is delivering the updates as well.

The philosophy of don't update unless its broken is part of the reason why certain exploits continue to exist even though they have been fixed with an update.

Anyways, software updates are something that is part of the buying process. If you want a phone with no updates, basically get Motorola. One year support and that's it.
 

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Any software updates has the potential to break phones or introduce new bugs but it doesn't mean that all of them will. Sometimes software updates are needed due to serious bugs/holes in the OS. It also depends on the manufacturer that is delivering the updates as well.

The philosophy of don't update unless its broken is part of the reason why certain exploits continue to exist even though they have been fixed with an update.

Anyways, software updates are something that is part of the buying process. If you want a phone with no updates, basically get Motorola. One year support and that's it.
If you have a firmware issue the update* will fix, go for it.
Work arounds solve most issues though. Many of my apps are also running on their factory loads rather than updated versions, deliberately.

In the case of Q and up, CPU sucking scope storage just sucks. Pie has a few exploits but in practice they're not an issue. This Pie load has been to web hell and back... still uncompromised. A malware forced reload would be far easier than a downgrade to 10 or 11🤣
Dogs jump through hoops, I don't.

No saving dumb bunnies... even a fully updated Pixel can't.



*OTA updates are killers; you have zero control over the download. More than one bricked phone from them.
 

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Well any phone can technically be forced an update whether you like it or not from a telecom.

To get back on the topic on hand, go with the phone that fits your budget and the features you want and if updates are important go for a manufacturer that updates their OS and security updates on time. If you are a person that doesn't care about updates you can go Blackhawk's route as well.
 

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    Hi everyone,

    This thread is a continuation of this thread.

    This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

    Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

    This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

    *NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
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    Excellent, I hope this will attract some discussion on new devices so new threads won't be opened.

    I am not looking for a new phone right now, well maybe not depending on the outcome of HTC repairing my Sensation I guess. I sure hope to find out tomorrow. I think if I was going to get a replacement now I would probably get the SGS3 over the OneX. I really don't like the non-removable battery and maybe worse, no SD slot. I know why they did it for economic reasons but I am just not going to go that direction. Batteries do not last forever and their maximum charge level goes down over time. I want to be able to plug the SD into my computer and do a local backup. I also want to be able to get a bigger or faster SD if one comes out.
    I am used to Sense but I am sure I could get used to Touchwiz as well, and I just read in the portal that ROM Cleaner works with the SGS3 now, as long as I can rid of the bloat I am content. I am sure that when my contract is done in a year there will be something newer and better out anyways. ;)
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    I hope it does aswell. These forums definitely have too many of those threads being created :rolleyes:

    I think I'd choose the S3 aswell to be honest. Even though the One X is a powerful phone, the S3 can quite easily out perform it, as it can with most phones.

    The only time I'd be looking to upgrade is when mine become redundant, which with having an S2 (which can still keep up with the newest flagship devices) and Xperia S, I won't need to upgrade for a while I don't think.

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