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KidCarter93

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Hi everyone,

This thread is a continuation of this thread.

This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

*NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
 
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zyxx

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What's your opinion on Oppo and Vivo devices? Do you think something like Oppo Reno 6 5G would serve your purpose? Even Mediatek chipsets are custom ROM friendly these days.
With the Oppo Reno 6 5G or the Vivo V21 5G, V21e 5G and X50e I'd lose some future-proofing by not having eSIM.
Hadn't heard of Vivo.
However, neither of these 4 devices is easy to find in my region (i.e. at most just one random online store I wouldn't trust my money to).

However, if I drop eSIM as a requirement, the scope broadens considerably:
  • Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G
  • Asus Zenfone 7
  • Oppo Find X3 Lite
  • Honor 30 Pro
  • Honor 30 Pro+
  • ZTE Axon 11 5G
  • Sony Xperia 5 II
  • LG V60 ThinQ 5G
Only the first 3 are readily available in my region.
 
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Guys would you chose a POCO F2 PRO over a Poco F3?
If yes, why ?
I really want to buy one of those and F2 PRO seems more appealing to me, considering i'm not that much into the refresh rate "war".
 

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What if I want to flash a custom ROM after the warranty? Which phones would be friendlier?
My advice would be not to buy phones based on custom roms availability. Google has taken quite a crack at custom roms in recents years, becoming harder and harder to pass safetynet and to access Google play apps and Google play services. also, Netflix or banking apps tend to stop working once you unlock the bootloader. so you would be given up a lot of apps, in your quest for privacy/ better performance /better battery life. smartphones have come a long way, most stock configurations are quite good nowadays for the average user. also old android versions are good as well. got a Huawei tablet, android oreo, still works good and fulfills everything I decide to do.
 
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My advice would be not to buy phones based on custom roms availability. Google has taken quite a crack at custom roms in recents years, becoming harder and harder to pass safetynet and to access Google play apps and Google play services. also, Netflix or banking apps tend to stop working once you unlock the bootloader. so you would be given up a lot of apps, in your quest for privacy/ better performance /better battery life. smartphones have come a long way, most stock configurations are quite good nowadays for the average user. also old android versions are good as well. got a Huawei tablet, android oreo, still works good and fulfills everything I decide to do.
I have a Huawei that has served me well for the last few years. Unfortunately it's carrier-locked and the manufacturer no longer provides bootloader-unlock codes (they claim security, I say forced obsolescence). The OS provider also doesn't care to upgrade it to the latest OS.

My device has a removable battery, no new phone now has a removable battery (same reason as above).

My device has external storage, nowadays some new devices do, some don't. You can argue my meagre 1GiB of RAM and 8GB of storage pale in comparison to the low end new phones, and you'd be right, but I enjoy the extra system space I get with external storage. Alas, the internal storage space is owned by Google, not me, and the phone is constantly running out of space. I move as many apps to the sdcard as I can, but not all of them allow it and a big chunk of storage is taken up by the system, somehow. And I can't root my device so I can't delete crap like carrier- and Google-apks I don't want.

I recently reset from factory, reinstalled some apps, moved the ones I could to external storage - it's back to being constantly out of space -- the funny twist being that when it does, allegedly, run out of space it shows a pop-up: when it does, it cuts the network connection, be it mobile or wifi, and it shows this pop-up about every 30s.

Yes, even the low end new smartphones are great in terms of hardware, but if I buy one I don't really own it, I'm limited by proprietary hardware (kind of expected but if you compare to a PC things are way more standardized) and, even worse, vendor-locked to the OS I'll have a hard time replacing, in part because of restrictive hardware.

I'd be buying a device I don't actually own, it's ridiculous. I'd like to be able to brick the freakin' thing should I so desire. If that were to void the warranty so be it. Phones should be 100% unlockable at least once the warrranty is over.

So yes, new phones have more oomph than the freaking moon landing equipment but I'd rather bet on a vendor/model that I can keep using in the long run, by flashing a new ROM if I want to.

Sorry for the long rant, I jut very much dislike built-in obsolescence and it's only ever been increasing lately and I feel powerless about it.

So how's Xiaomi in terms or ROMs? Or some other vendor? 'Cos it's getting harder and harder to use "my" Android 5.1 Huawei.
 

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I have a Huawei that has served me well for the last few years. Unfortunately it's carrier-locked and the manufacturer no longer provides bootloader-unlock codes (they claim security, I say forced obsolescence). The OS provider also doesn't care to upgrade it to the latest OS.

My device has a removable battery, no new phone now has a removable battery (same reason as above).

My device has external storage, nowadays some new devices do, some don't. You can argue my meagre 1GiB of RAM and 8GB of storage pale in comparison to the low end new phones, and you'd be right, but I enjoy the extra system space I get with external storage. Alas, the internal storage space is owned by Google, not me, and the phone is constantly running out of space. I move as many apps to the sdcard as I can, but not all of them allow it and a big chunk of storage is taken up by the system, somehow. And I can't root my device so I can't delete crap like carrier- and Google-apks I don't want.

I recently reset from factory, reinstalled some apps, moved the ones I could to external storage - it's back to being constantly out of space -- the funny twist being that when it does, allegedly, run out of space it shows a pop-up: when it does, it cuts the network connection, be it mobile or wifi, and it shows this pop-up about every 30s.

Yes, even the low end new smartphones are great in terms of hardware, but if I buy one I don't really own it, I'm limited by proprietary hardware (kind of expected but if you compare to a PC things are way more standardized) and, even worse, vendor-locked to the OS I'll have a hard time replacing, in part because of restrictive hardware.

I'd be buying a device I don't actually own, it's ridiculous. I'd like to be able to brick the freakin' thing should I so desire. If that were to void the warranty so be it. Phones should be 100% unlockable at least once the warrranty is over.

So yes, new phones have more oomph than the freaking moon landing equipment but I'd rather bet on a vendor/model that I can keep using in the long run, by flashing a new ROM if I want to.

Sorry for the long rant, I jut very much dislike built-in obsolescence and it's only ever been increasing lately and I feel powerless about it.

So how's Xiaomi in terms or ROMs? Or some other vendor? 'Cos it's getting harder and harder to use "my" Android 5.1 Huawei.
fun fact, I was in the same boat you are right now a couple years ago. I had a allview p6 quad, a good mid-range phone when it launched, totally unsupported by anyone. had to totally disable Google play and its services and rely on apkpure for my apps and updates, bought me another year of usage before I give in and bought something else.

second phone was a samsung s6. this one was damn popular when it launched and it still is. quite inexpensive nowadays, you can upgrade the battery and there are a plethora of custom roms, from android 6 to Android 11.

xiaomi is still one of the good vendors out there. they are still sending smartphones to developers before launch, in order to create a custom rom community for that device. in Europe at least, they come with Google contacts and dialer (my favorite), like the pixel. plus their mid range smartphones are priced quite ok, bought mine for 200€. of course, in order to lower the price that much, the phone is filled with ads and pre-installed apps. but everything can be uninstalled or disabled. I would rather take a 10 min tutorial on how to disable everything than spend 500€ on a different device with the same specs.
 

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    I think the battery on my Huawei Mate 20 Pro is going the way of the Dodo but I'm yet not decided on buying a new phone.

    If I'm to upgrade my phone, my two main things are camera and battery life. Regrading cameras, what would be the best phone right now? And I mean picture magic with all the stuff the Mate 20 Pro did to a point a shoot picture and it's AI.

    From googling this I come up with plenty of candidates but they are usually ranked by "best natural pictures" and that's not really what I think I'm after.

    Oppo x3 Pro and Xiaomi 11 Ultra sound like good candidates, I'm not sure about the "magic" on the Galaxy s21 Ultra or Iphone 12/13, these last seem to go for realistic pictures.
    you could also look for gcam. some gcam ports have more contrast and saturation than others. if gcam will fit the bill, then any phone is OK. battery isn't that important nowadays, 4500 is enough.
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    Hello guys,

    For Sure you can helo me with my phone question :).
    Currently i have an S8 an the display is broken and it don't get Updates anymore.

    Now i'm looking for a new phone until about 500€ and in the Moment i Think the best choose looks like a oneplus 8T, 8 or Nord 2 :) (second Hand about 320€)

    Important for me is a good Camera quality and that i can easily Flash a Custom ROM after "out of support" by producer.

    Can anyone give me a advice

    Thanks in advance
    I would look into getting the Oneplus 8T.

    You can also look at Motorola selections as they have an easy process to unlock bootloader once support is done. I believe the Motorola Edge 20 Pro and fusion are coming out.
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    I have only ever used Samsung Galaxy series (S3, S5, S7), and usually buy my phones in Europe or Asia and needs the phone to work internationally.

    Strictly essential features:

    - Needs to be reasonably easily rootable, and come with any features to make that happen (e.g. easily unlockable bootloader etc.). This is the main reason I am looking away from Samsung phones.

    - MicroSD card

    Very highly desirable feature (I would put it in the absolutely needed if it didn't narrow my options too much):

    - IP rating (I use my phones in very wet and cold places - I can seal it in a waterproof bag, but it would be better if I didn't have to)

    - Headphone jack

    - Large battery capacity

    Desirable feature (that I know those are uncommon so I can sacrifice it):

    - Two SIM cards slot (on top of the MicroSD.. not that hybrid stuff)

    - Removable battery (yeah, a relic of the past - but one can dream)

    - Affordable (not looking for flagship kind of phone)

    - Screen that isn't massive (e.g. >6.1")

    What I do not care about:

    - Glass constructions

    - Camera quality

    - Flagship performance

    - Generally speaking anything that isn't mentioned in the previous categories. OS wise, I am not too bothered as long as it isn't ancient.

    Even if the phone ideal phone I want doesn't exist, if I'd like to know any company that make phones that at least has the "strictly essential features". If Samsung has many phones that tick quite a few of features that I value, but they aren't as root friendly as I would like.
    The Redmi Note 10 Pro checks most of the boxes:

    easy to root (you have to wait 15 days after you bought it)
    dedicated Micro SD
    dual sim
    headphone jack
    IP53
    Affordable - 250€
    huge battery 5020mah

    but screen is 6,67" and IP53 means its only lightly waterproof - rain is fine but putting it underwater is not

    Since it is a china phone and got launched in the EU it will work basically everywhere.

    edit:
    The Oukitel WP series might also be interesting. They are special outdoor phones that should check many of your needs, and they got a battery up to 10.000 mAh. However i do not know how easy they are to root/how well they are supported by the community
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    Hi, everyone!

    My phone of 3 years (Samsung Galaxy J4+) recently bricked after I accidentally dropped it into a pool, and now I have to look for a replacement.

    I'm not that well informed about the smartphone tech, and I don't follow any news regarding the advancements in this industry so I would appreciate it if somebody would be willing to give me some suggestions on my next purchase. Here are my requirements:

    BUDGET: €300 (I'm willing to increase this by around €50 as long as the improvements are worth it)

    Things that I'm looking for in a new phone are:
    • Battery capacity
    • Durability (that is, able to last as long as possible without needing to be replaced like in 1 or 2 years)
    • Storage space (32GB or higher)
    • Resolution (720p or higher)
    • Size (less than 7")
    RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. is not so much important to me as long as the phone has a decent chip and is not slow, so anything along the J4+ specs or better would be good enough for me.


    Things that I don't care much about are:
    • Camera quality - Not a big camera user, and on the rare occasion where I do take a picture or record a video, I would just like that the picture/video quality does not look like garbage, otherwise I don't mind making sacrifices here
    • Fingerprint sensors
    • NFC, Infrared, Radio, etc.
    • Waterproofing, Dustproofing, etc. - While nice to have, it's not really something that I would be willing to pay a premium for
    • 5G - There's no infrastructure for it in my country right now (Serbia), and besides, I don't care about that sort of thing. The only use that I need from it is when I need to enable data for the internet because I cannot find a Wi-Fi to connect to, which I believe 4G is good enough for this

    My usage on the phone is pretty casual. Aside from the couple of calls I make and the texts I send, I mostly spend my time web browsing or watching YouTube videos. I don't play video games, aside from something small like Minesweeper to pass the time while I'm in a waiting room. I don't listen to music frequently, and when I do, it's mostly via speakers, so a headphone jack is optional.

    Searching the net, these are the phones that I found:
    • Poco F3 - €305
    • Poco X3 Pro - €185
    • Samsung Galaxy A51 - €193
    • Samsung Galaxy A52 - €340
    • Samsung Galaxy A72 - €331
    • OnePlus Nord - €193
    • Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G - €222
    • Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro - €176
    • Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 5G - €125
    • Xiaomi Mi 9T - €83
    • Huawei P40 Lite - €115

    Out of all of these, which one do you think is best? I feel like all these phones on the list fit the criteria of what I'm looking for, so I don't know if I should just go with the one that's cheapest and save money since my use case is so minimal, or go with the more expensive variants to ensure that the hardware improvement will mean better futureproofing?

    Nonetheless, if you have a better suggestion from what I've found, please feel free to share it.

    Thanks in forward!
    Poco X3 Pro is what attracts me. Personally, I would have gone for OnePlus Nord but I hear it has no custom roms. Samsung is again another problematic and over-expensive vendor so a no-no for me. Huawei is winding down in support due to restrictions from USA. That leaves Poco, Redmi and Mi.

    So now, I need a 3.5 jack and a good battery. I fscking hate its look, but I would anyway put a cover on it so...

    EDIT: Nord actually has a lot of custom from support. But Nord 2 doesn't.
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    Hi everyone,

    This thread is a continuation of this thread.

    This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

    Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

    This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

    *NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
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    Excellent, I hope this will attract some discussion on new devices so new threads won't be opened.

    I am not looking for a new phone right now, well maybe not depending on the outcome of HTC repairing my Sensation I guess. I sure hope to find out tomorrow. I think if I was going to get a replacement now I would probably get the SGS3 over the OneX. I really don't like the non-removable battery and maybe worse, no SD slot. I know why they did it for economic reasons but I am just not going to go that direction. Batteries do not last forever and their maximum charge level goes down over time. I want to be able to plug the SD into my computer and do a local backup. I also want to be able to get a bigger or faster SD if one comes out.
    I am used to Sense but I am sure I could get used to Touchwiz as well, and I just read in the portal that ROM Cleaner works with the SGS3 now, as long as I can rid of the bloat I am content. I am sure that when my contract is done in a year there will be something newer and better out anyways. ;)
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    I hope it does aswell. These forums definitely have too many of those threads being created :rolleyes:

    I think I'd choose the S3 aswell to be honest. Even though the One X is a powerful phone, the S3 can quite easily out perform it, as it can with most phones.

    The only time I'd be looking to upgrade is when mine become redundant, which with having an S2 (which can still keep up with the newest flagship devices) and Xperia S, I won't need to upgrade for a while I don't think.

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    I would take the Lumina. My girlfriend has one and its pretty good.

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    Never owned a tablet before.. flirting with the idea of a galaxy tab 2 10.1. As of current, I'm all good with my s3 but I'm kinda interested in what this next galaxy note 2 will bring. Guess I'm some sort of galaxy fan.. ever since my vibrant :p

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