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Hi everyone,

This thread is a continuation of this thread.

This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

*NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
 
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hrpanjwani

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... unless you value the ability to mod your OS.

A rooted Android device allows a lot more OS modification than a jailbroken iPhone.
It's good to expand your boundaries.

Personally, an iPhone has been my main phone for almost 15 years. But I have also had some version of Android as a secondary phone in that time. Samsung, Nexus, Xiaomi, Nokia, LG.

It's fun to play around with different aspects of technology.
 

HippoMan

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It's good to expand your boundaries.

Personally, an iPhone has been my main phone for almost 15 years. But I have also had some version of Android as a secondary phone in that time. Samsung, Nexus, Xiaomi, Nokia, LG.

It's fun to play around with different aspects of technology.
Yes, I agree that it's good to expand ones horizons, and for many people it could be beneficial to check out an iPhone.

I'm just pointing out to those people who root and mod their Android devices that jailbroken iPhones allow fewer OS and feature modifications than rooted iPhones. On a jailbroken iPhone, you are more constrained to limits imposed by the Apple ecosystem than you would be limited to Android ecosystem limits on a rooted Android device.

In other words, if modding and extending your OS beyond the manufacturer's imposed limitations is important to you, you will find that Apple makes this more difficult than Android does.

Apple is famous for (often proudly) forcing user-experience constraints which in many cases are impossible to override, even on jailbroken phones. Android is freer in this area ... although over time, Google keeps imposing more and more Apple-like limitations upon its users, and Android may eventually catch up with iOS in this area.
 
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puru

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Buying Decision (S22 Ultra)​


Hey please help in buying decision

Thinking of getting a S22 Ultra 512GB from US (I am from India) - Retailing for $1100 as of now.
I have to root as I tend to use quite a few rooted apps (mainly to block tons of ads, data privacy, spoof location, etc)
1. Need to know which version is easiest to root (Exynos, Snapdragon) and even the region code if possible.
2. Is it possible to receive updates (OTA or otherwise) without a reset?
3. Is it worth waiting till S23 is released in Feb 2023? (For price drops of S22)

Why S22?
Primarily for the great camera. I considered Pixel Pro but S22 outshines in the features.
 
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hrpanjwani

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Yes, I agree that it's good to expand ones horizons, and for many people it could be beneficial to check out an iPhone.

I'm just pointing out to those people who root and mod their Android devices that jailbroken iPhones allow fewer OS and feature modifications than rooted iPhones. On a jailbroken iPhone, you are more constrained to limits imposed by the Apple ecosystem than you would be limited to Android ecosystem limits on a rooted Android device.

In other words, if modding and extending your OS beyond the manufacturer's imposed limitations is important to you, you will find that Apple makes this more difficult than Android does.

Apple is famous for (often proudly) forcing user-experience constraints which in many cases are impossible to override, even on jailbroken phones. Android is freer in this area ... although over time, Google keeps imposing more and more Apple-like limitations upon its users, and Android may eventually catch up with iOS in this area.
Yes, Apple has a specific vision and you have to buy into that vision to use their devices. For example, slide to unlock was useful and a good marketing gimmick and now it is gone but we still use it to power off devices. Could do with an update there and add reboot, reboot into recovery, etc but Apple requires a hardware interaction for those. That's their vision and they will stick to it.

I agree that Google used to be much more flexible but the shareholder demand for services revenue is making both companies much more controlling than one would like. Microsoft did not get their Windows/Office blinkers off in time to compete in mobile and HP with WebOS could have been a good competitor but they folded just as they were starting. Having even one more real competitor in the mobile OS landscape could have seen a different outcome for us consumers.
 
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Hi, I was looking for a new phone. I am currently using an S7 with Lineage Os, I was looking for something that has the same size, sd card slot, waterproof and fingerprint sensor and good durability. S10E meets all the requirements, but my only concern is that the camera will work like crap as soon as I install a custom rom.

Any advice?
 

Perico pericales

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Hi guys, I´m in need of something for our company:

We need a inexpensive phone (between 100€ and 200€) that could have a clean custom rom with firewall afwall+, no google apps and, if possible, openvpn integrated for always on (and it could not be modified)

Access the phone remotely via vpn could be great in case a change is needed in the vpn.

What phone do you recommend for that?

Is there someone willing to do this? We could talk privately if he/she is interested.

Thanks!!!
 

svenik

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Hi all, please
What smartphone would you recommend to buy up to 500 euro?

I was thinking about Poco F4 8/256, or OnePlus Nord 2T 5G, 128 or 256, Nothing phone 1
I would expect good amoled display, with nice stereo sound (bass + volume) and a good camera at least with OIS
Or is there something else to look on please? Thank you
 

DmT1

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Hi,

Posting to this forum, as maybe someone can suggest a smartphone with removable battery, which has some features I like and use on my current phone.

Right now I am using LG G4 and it might be time to update it. However the newer versions G5 and V20 have no way to unlock bootloader (and get root - to remove Google spying and add firewall/xprivacy) and therefore I am unable to find a phone which meets all my criteria.

So preferrably I would like a smartphone which:
- has removable battery
- is rootable
- has IR sensor
- has FM radio
- has microSD card slot
- has headphone jack
- has a decent camera

If someone know some smartphone model, which meets those, then please share you wisdom!:)

Thank you!
 

Laesx

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Buy Lenovo P11 Pro 2022 (TB132FU) or P11 Pro 2021 (J716F)​


Little backstory, I have the 2021 version of this (which I bought second hand but I'm returning it because the screen is terrible at low brightness, see picture).
So I've spotted a sale I can get either of these two tables and they're the same price, my question is which one would be better, the info I know so far is:

2021:
+ Easier to flash apparently as I see on the forum, much more support
- Screens seem to be really poorly QC'd so it's a lottery (although this might be for both)

2022:
+ "Better" Screen since it's 120Hz, has PWM or w/e and a higher sampling rate, different panel from the 2021 so I'm hoping the QC is slightly better.
- No fingerprint
- Bigger Bezels which look kinda ugly but I can live with
- Less proper documentation for flashing/L1/OTA, etc. makes me trust it less

I'm debating if I should get a 2022 or a 2021, also I've heard some bad things about ZUI 14 being buggy (which my current tab doesn't have) so I'm not sure what to do.
Specially in the screen part of things since it's what's most important.

Picture of what I was talking about, This should be solid dark grey. It would be helpful if owners of them could try taking pictures of how they fare on low brightness.
20221118_024737.jpg
 
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hrpanjwani

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Hi all, please
What smartphone would you recommend to buy up to 500 euro?

I was thinking about Poco F4 8/256, or OnePlus Nord 2T 5G, 128 or 256, Nothing phone 1
I would expect good amoled display, with nice stereo sound (bass + volume) and a good camera at least with OIS
Or is there something else to look on please? Thank you
Go for the Nord
 

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Hello, I am looking to buy a pixel 7 or a oneplus 9 vs. S21 FE or a S22 (international models). I want a rootable stable phone that will not give crazy issues with windows 10/11. The pixel 7 I can buy from my cellphone carrier koodo mobile (https://www.koodomobile.com/en/phones?INTCMP=KMNew_NavMenu_Shop_Phones). I live in Ontario, Canada so mind you, I will be buying a device within Canada (mostly). Which phone should I get ? thanks for your input

Also, does anyone know what the naming convention is for taking photos with the built-in camera of each device ? Thanks for another one!
 

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Well each has their strengths and weaknesses. The Moto has a better processor and video and selfie capabilities, while the Poco has a better build quality, IP53 resistant, photography capability, screen, microsd, headphone jack, charging speed and better custom rom community support.
Hello, I have a follow-up: it seems like the M4 and X3 may have advantages over the X4. I heard that the X3 has better hardware yet it (Indian model?) has had issues (I'm buying in the US). Do you have any thoughts on the M4 and X3 as well, and which one is a better buy in this case?

Addition: The Galaxy S10e is also looking attractive. It has features that I like, smaller, and cheaper than the other phones. I figure it has good mod support too because it's a flagship phone? Any thoughts help! ty
 
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tralph3

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Hi, I'm wanting to replace my old Huawei P8 lite from 2015. I don't know many models, so I'm looking for recommendations.

There are some things that I cannot give up tho. I'll put a list of things that are required. I won't accept any phone without these.

REQUIREMENTS:
* Official custom ROM support (anything that lets me remove Google completely)
* 3.5mm audio jack
* Expandable storage via micro sd card
* No Samsung or Pixel phones

PREFERABLY:
* No notch
* No more than 5.5 inches
* NFC
* No punch hole camera, I want an unobstructed screen

Well, that's about it. The price range needs to be kinda low, not much more than maybe $100. I live in Argentina, electronics are expensive, and wages are low. What options do I have?
 

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Advice needed: best (up to date) as possible new phone for rooting​


Hi guys, wasn't sure where to post this, so feel free to move it to a better suited forum if needed.

My phone is 5 years old and its time for new one. Whats an easy, but worthy phone, to root thats still relatively easy to aquire.
 
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Sora4449

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I'm torn between huawei nova 9 and honor 50
Where I live they are almost the same price
Nova 9 has better cam
Honor 50 has Google services. Other than that they are the same.
 

phaleg

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Hello!

Would you please suggest me a decent rugged phone with custom roms support?

Nothing fancy, it is enough that it is not super long and narrow like 99% of phones that are creating now

Thanks
 

Fytdyh

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Hi, I'm wanting to replace my old Huawei P8 lite from 2015. I don't know many models, so I'm looking for recommendations.

There are some things that I cannot give up tho. I'll put a list of things that are required. I won't accept any phone without these.

REQUIREMENTS:
* Official custom ROM support (anything that lets me remove Google completely)
* 3.5mm audio jack
* Expandable storage via micro sd card
* No Samsung or Pixel phones

PREFERABLY:
* No notch
* No more than 5.5 inches
* NFC
* No punch hole camera, I want an unobstructed screen

Well, that's about it. The price range needs to be kinda low, not much more than maybe $100. I live in Argentina, electronics are expensive, and wages are low. What options do I have?
Go for redmi note 4 (snapdragon version)
 

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    I'm looking for a phone that has more than 3 main custom roms and good gps. (using Poco M3 Pro 5G rn)

    Phones whose latest versions are supported by atleast 3+ official custom roms:​

    More and more device manufacturers are delaying the release of their ROM builds to the open source community, leaving us with a handful of device manufacturers who are very generous - and for whom custom ROM builds are sprawling with official websites. Here are the 7 devices you can confidently buy, who support official custom ROM support - published after filtering 12 active official custom ROM websites -
    1. paranoid
    2. Lineage
    3. evolution
    4. pixel experience
    5. Calyx
    6. Graphene os
    7. Elixir
    8. crdroid
    9. bliss OS
    10. Ubuntu touch
    11. AlphaDroid
    12. Rising OSS

    The 7 device series - that will surely provide 3+ official rom support in future:

    1. Redmi note series - Note 12 /note 12 turbo/ 12r pro - supported by 8 official custom ROMS
    2. Xiaomi Mi series - Mi 12/12r - by 4 official custom ROMS; Mi 13/13 pro - 1 official custom ROM supported
    3. Poco X series - X5/X5 pro - 6 official custom roms
    4. Poco M series - M5 - 4 official custom roms; M6/M6 Pro - 2 official custom Roms
    5. Poco F series - F5 - 4 official custom roms
    6. Nothing Phone - Phone 2 - 3 custom roms ; Phone 1 - 6 official custom ROMS
    7. Pixel phones - 10+ active official custom ROMS available for latest pixel.

    Detailed analysis of these 7 devices with their present state of custom ROM development, attached as a pdf

    - to help you navigate and search the latest ROMS easier/ to keep/ edit/ update as a personal guide.

    Obviously latest Oneplus, samsung device custom ROM development has stalled. Unofficial release only exist for them.
    Official ROM support for Oneplus stopped with Oneplus 9 series, for Samsung with s10 series. No more official custom ROMS for them at the moment. Unofficial ones do exist.

    Based on your budgets and preferences, go for it.
    Cheers!
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    dont forget AlphaDroid!!!!! and RisingTechOSS
    On it mate.. .will add it in the list!
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    Pleased to hear mate.

    Does it apply to redmi phones too?
    Yes, but only in China for now... Some people in other Asian countries have also seen these new restrictions but not everyone has. It'll be instated everywhere else eventually though...
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    what exactly are the new BL unlock policies that make it dangerous? where can I read about it? cause I was thinking of buying a xiaomi phone so if the phone is not supported by xiaomi via updates anymore, then I could install a community ROM.
    For now the policies are only in China so if you see one you like, you're good to go but keep in mind you'll no longer receive updates to the stock ROM. The policies will be expanded globally though, it's been all but confirmed.

    The policies themselves include gaining level 5 on Xiaomi's CN forums, only unlocking 3 devices/yr, and we waiting for certain times for your request to be manually approved...

    See this:
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    Poco X6 Pro 512 / 12 GB vs Galaxy S23 FE 256 / 8 GB - which one should I buy?​

    I want camera to be good but Poco X6 Pro hardware seems so superior

    Would it worth to buy Galaxy S23 FE only for camera?
    You are comparing a 2024phone vs 2023 phone.. forget the hardware, in every functionality there is a slight edge for x6 pro

    1. X6 2024 Mtk faster than 2023 snap Soc
    2. Better audio quality! (Ldac), better display, faster ram,lighter device
    3. Even camera! Poco's photo procsssing might lag, but its post photo AI features are betfer than samsung
    4. Updates - same -S23 wont get the 7 year updates
    5. Custom rom community - Official roms like paranoid etc. Arrivewithin 1year of release for poco.. and take 4years from samsung! (X5 vs s10)

    Addthe hardware, as u told, poco x6 crushes it. Samsungusually never minds the hardware.. So thats fine!

    The only savinggrace? If u love oneui/boxy feel of s23! Hyper os has bridged/refines the os gap too..
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    Hi everyone,

    This thread is a continuation of this thread.

    This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.

    Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.

    This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.

    *NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
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    Excellent, I hope this will attract some discussion on new devices so new threads won't be opened.

    I am not looking for a new phone right now, well maybe not depending on the outcome of HTC repairing my Sensation I guess. I sure hope to find out tomorrow. I think if I was going to get a replacement now I would probably get the SGS3 over the OneX. I really don't like the non-removable battery and maybe worse, no SD slot. I know why they did it for economic reasons but I am just not going to go that direction. Batteries do not last forever and their maximum charge level goes down over time. I want to be able to plug the SD into my computer and do a local backup. I also want to be able to get a bigger or faster SD if one comes out.
    I am used to Sense but I am sure I could get used to Touchwiz as well, and I just read in the portal that ROM Cleaner works with the SGS3 now, as long as I can rid of the bloat I am content. I am sure that when my contract is done in a year there will be something newer and better out anyways. ;)
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    I hope it does aswell. These forums definitely have too many of those threads being created :rolleyes:

    I think I'd choose the S3 aswell to be honest. Even though the One X is a powerful phone, the S3 can quite easily out perform it, as it can with most phones.

    The only time I'd be looking to upgrade is when mine become redundant, which with having an S2 (which can still keep up with the newest flagship devices) and Xperia S, I won't need to upgrade for a while I don't think.

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    I would take the Lumina. My girlfriend has one and its pretty good.

    √ HTC Evo 3D GSM
    √ Android JB 4.1.2
    √ Disarmed Toaster
    √ 4EXT Recovery Touch
    √ Anthrax Kernel 3.7.0 @ 1.6ghz
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    Never owned a tablet before.. flirting with the idea of a galaxy tab 2 10.1. As of current, I'm all good with my s3 but I'm kinda interested in what this next galaxy note 2 will bring. Guess I'm some sort of galaxy fan.. ever since my vibrant :p

    ---> Brought to you in part by my T999 / T-Mobile Galaxy SIII :)