What's the big deal with Flash anyway?

[samtran0331]

I mean..c'mon...is it really that important?

Or does everyone want Flash support soley because you can't have Flash on an iPad?
(aka the Neener Neener Neener Factor?) ("N3F" for short)

Like it or not, there are more iPads in the hands of consumers than there are any other type of tablet device.

An article from January 19 says that Apple sold nearly 15 million iPads in 2010.

That is 15 million mostly non-geeky people
(people who you would think NEED Flash more than your average geek on XDA).

Yet they are all okay with not having Flash.

Before having Flash, I would rather have a streaming NetFlix app, a good DLNA/uPnP app and since I'm on a mini-rant, I would like a really good video player.

The best I've tried so far is Act1...but it's still lacking in a few areas.

 

[funnycreature]

It's more a principle thing. First, you buy the device that is supposed to be flash enabled. It was not so waiting #1. Second, Adobe apparently announced the release of flash for today. So far, nothing again; waiting #2. If I buy a banana split with cream then I want my cream whether it's necessary or not

And c'mon, do you really really really have to drag the iPad vs. Xoom discussion in here again? I couldn't care less if other devices support flash or not. That doesn't make me feel better or worse. I only care about the Xoom.

 

[Procinctu]

My primary purpose for the tablet is email and web. I have been running the leaked flash since it came out. You get a smoother web experience with flash, in my opinion and use, because it seems to be everywhere. I don't want to have to open other apps or click other links for popups to get what should be there any way. I don't really follow the "I don't get all the flash adds" with my iPad. If it is an issue just turn the extension to "on demand". I like sitting down reading a web page and seeing the video link and then just clicking it to watch it. I don't like adding steps to a device I want to remove steps.

Is flash the ultimate solution? Doesn't appear to be, however until it is phased out to sites I visit daily then I need a tablet that can use it. I really tried to take back the Xoom and get an iPad 2, but it just won't do everything I want.

Flash is not a big deal to everyone, as not everyone buys a tablet for the same reason.

 

[kalfou]

I mean..c'mon...is it really that important?

Or does everyone want Flash support soley because you can't have Flash on an iPad?
(aka the Neener Neener Neener Factor?) ("N3F" for short)

Like it or not, there are more iPads in the hands of consumers than there are any other type of tablet device.

An article from January 19 says that Apple sold nearly 15 million iPads in 2010.

That is 15 million mostly non-geeky people
(people who you would think NEED Flash more than your average geek on XDA).

Yet they are all okay with not having Flash.

Before having Flash, I would rather have a streaming NetFlix app, a good DLNA/uPnP app and since I'm on a mini-rant, I would like a really good video player.

The best I've tried so far is Act1...but it's still lacking in a few areas.

I agree totally, I mean I like knowing I have flash handy, but I don't wake up in the morning mourning the absence of flash, its more like " hey dude u wanna see the ultimate facepalm? Check it out" apart from those vids, I can't really say flash is a major part of the tablet experience... that's my view anyway

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[zone23]

I wouldn't say they (Ipad owners) are OK with it they don't have a choice. Its like living communist china. You live there because you don't have a choice not because you want to. How many downloads do you think flash for IPad would have the first day?

Anyway I'm kinda with you its not really that important but it is something thats nice to have. I'm just board waiting for 5pm so I can start smoking and drinking #winning.

 

[Eclair~]

Don't use it. Jeez. You don't even have to install the application. Who cares if 15 million people don't need Flash? If I wan't Flash I'll install Flash and I will use Flash. The iPad uses HTML5 as well, which can also be utilized Android. We have the best of both worlds... and until Flash is phased out of the internet, when it is needed, it will be used.

Was this thread made to show how advertising Flash as an amazing feature is stupid?
Was this thread made to show your own hate for Flash?
Was this thread made to prove that Flash isn't needed?
Was this thread made to "bash" Android fans who bash the fact that the iPad lacks Flash?
... or could it have even been to show that the iPad is selling millions and we should all be envious haters?

Really, if you don't get the point of Flash, and you don't like Flash -- just don't use the thing.

 

[nirvashone]

Its all abouth the kiddies being able to watch porn on their phones

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[zone23]

Its all abouth the kiddies being able to watch porn on their phones

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Well I already have porn I mean flash on my phone. Also I think if you don't like porn you are either really old or well I don't want to call you names its against the rules.

 

[kalfou]

So the end of this thread is flash is cool to have, let's be honest, having more is good and that's what is provides for us android users, more freedom

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[funnycreature]

Well I already have porn I mean flash on my phone. Also I think if you don't like porn you are either really old or well I don't want to call you names its against the rules.

+1!
If I want to watch porn I'll do it on the big screen. Also, there's always Skyfire that has a flash alternative... but I shouldn't give the "kiddies" too many bad ideas!

 

[aohus]

somehow flash isn't important on the day of the iPad1 release?

i feel like some people were born yesterday.

hi OP, you must be new to the internet.

 

[StrifeSoldierVII]

That's kind of a dumb question. Actually it is a very dumb question. Maybe you live under a rock?

Most websites are built around flash. Without the flash player you would not get a nice browsing experience like the website designer wanted you to have. Yeah yeah.. ads this... ads that. It's called set the flash player to on demand. You can activate it when you need it, so you are in control. Isn't that what being an Android user is all about? Being in control of your device.

It's like 2D vs. 3D. There is quite a difference between the two, just like there is with being able to use flash on websites. Yes, one can go without the flash player (Apple products), or one could enjoy the browsing experience like it was meant to be. Technology is advancing, and its here to make life easier and more enjoyable, especially in the handheld mobile department. It's awesome to be able to go to fox.com and watch full episodes of the Sunday shows on demand on my Xoom whenever I feel like it. Or any other website with tv shows like that. Apple/iPad will NEVER have that kind of desktop user experience... EVER!!!

Hands down.

 

[kalfou]

That's kind of a dumb question. Actually it is a very dumb question. Maybe you live under a rock?

Most websites are built around flash. Without the flash player you would not get a nice browsing experience like the website designer wanted you to have. Yeah yeah.. ads this... ads that. It's called set the flash player to on demand. You can activate it when you need it, so you are in control. Isn't that what being an Android user is all about? Being in control of your device.

It's like 2D vs. 3D. There is quite a difference between the two, just like there is with being able to use flash on websites. Yes, one can go without the flash player (Apple products), or one could enjoy the browsing experience like it was meant to be. Technology is advancing, and its here to make life easier and more enjoyable, especially in the handheld mobile department. It's awesome to be able to go to fox.com and watch full episodes of the Sunday shows on demand on my Xoom whenever I feel like it. Or any other website with tv shows like that. Apple/iPad will NEVER have that kind of desktop user experience... EVER!!!

Hands down.

Apple will integrate flash.

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[StrifeSoldierVII]

Apple will integrate flash.

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My reply stands solid regardless of the comment about Apple products. Why people skip the whole point and focus on something else is beyond me. That was extra, not the main point. Geez.

I doubt Apple and Adobe will ever be on the same page. If they do, so what? By then Flash will be old news to the mobile world. Everyone will have it already in all shapes and forms, whether its the lite or the full version. In short.. no one will give a crap by that time because every OS will have already been with Flash for the longest time.

 

[samtran0331]

That's kind of a dumb question. Actually it is a very dumb question. Maybe you live under a rock?

Most websites are built around flash. Without the flash player you would not get a nice browsing experience like the website designer wanted you to have. Yeah yeah.. ads this... ads that. It's called set the flash player to on demand. You can activate it when you need it, so you are in control. Isn't that what being an Android user is all about? Being in control of your device.

It's like 2D vs. 3D. There is quite a difference between the two, just like there is with being able to use flash on websites. Yes, one can go without the flash player (Apple products), or one could enjoy the browsing experience like it was meant to be. Technology is advancing, and its here to make life easier and more enjoyable, especially in the handheld mobile department. It's awesome to be able to go to fox.com and watch full episodes of the Sunday shows on demand on my Xoom whenever I feel like it. Or any other website with tv shows like that. Apple/iPad will NEVER have that kind of desktop user experience... EVER!!!

Hands down.

Nope, I doubt my fat a$$ could fit under a rock.

I live in a house...and I'm actually a web developer and have been a web developer for about 16 years now.

I've done everything from PHP to CFM to JSP to ASP to ASP.Net....

And...at a former job--spent about 3 years developing....<drum roll>....Flash sites!

 

[kalfou]

My reply stands solid regardless of the comment about Apple products. Why people skip the whole point and focus on something else is beyond me. That was extra, not the main point. Geez.

I doubt Apple and Adobe will ever be on the same page. If they do, so what? By then Flash will be old news to the mobile world. Everyone will have it already in all shapes and forms, whether its the lite or the full version. In short.. no one will give a crap by that time because every OS will have already been with Flash for the longest time.

I'm just saying Apple will provide flash on their OS. It's just a matter of time, weather they look for other sources or not, or even create their own interfaces... chill man, u gonna have a heart attack

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[kalfou]

Flash is minor, I ain't no fanboy or whatever u like to call these people who only purchase certain items from one company...

All I'm sayin is when ur mum is on her iPhone and comes across a broken part of da page where flash should be, u think she gonna stress like us geeks? She ain't, she just gonna forget it and move on...

The end of this bitching is Apple is the best... if u don't give a ****.

Android is the best if you have time to play around.

Is rather play around kos I have time to.

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[z06mike]

Set your UA String to desktop and check out many websites in all their glory, it's pretty cool . ESPN, Yahoo, ABC, CBS, etc... It's just cool having the FULL web at your fingertips.

Also, some business websites require flash and that is why some people NEED it.

 

[eatonjb]

My look at it.

is flash god's gift? No it is not
is flash a good system? not really

ok.. I get it.. but here's the problem, there are lots of sites out there that use flash, benefit from it, and use it poorly and some use it pretty well

I WANT the option, I had an iphone for a while, and I remember looking for an address to a diner, or a menu for example, or just a lot of things, and it just did not work! it was stupid! now on my Captivate I get the option, yes its a little slow and sluggish, but i can at least get my info that I want.

long story short, I dont care for it too much, but this is the internet and even if we dont like things, with Jobs telling me that I can't have flash, tells me that I cant use the internet to the fullest potential.

I just hope that HTML5 kills Flash, but untill then, I need it.

 

[js042507]

OP.... yes I don't think flash is that big of a deal either.
Also, the 'iPad' sold a bunch of units in 2010. Guess what? Its 2011! The only thing available back then was the ipad. Now we have the xoom. Which is way better! Lol.


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