" Where to go? "

[schwinn8]

Forgot to mention, speaking of malware. I have a VS996 on TotalWireless. Yet, the other day, I saw that something background-installed an app on my phone. I checked the info on the app, and it said it was installed by "Verizon App Manager". Seriously, WTF?! I'm not on VZ and never asked for their garbage installation choices. Fortunately, due to a rooted phone, I could easily freeze the app in TiBu.

So, as far a malware and security goes, I have more to complain about the carriers than any third party or hacker.

 

[cmrntnnr]

I despise Apple, too, maybe for different reasons. Their 30% cut for access to the istore is usary. They make nothing themselves and are societal leaches. It was a pleasure to learn how Nissan and Hyundai rebuffed Apple's proposal to become the FoxConn of cars. Itunes to access pics and media is beyond terrible. The only good thing has been willingness to provide users a way to opt out of the human futures market. It's been nice seeing Zuck squirm.

Leaks make the upcoming Sony Xperia 1 III look pretty good. Bootloader unlock likely supported, too.

Sick burn!
But seriously, eff Apple, stick to the V30.

 

[ldeveraux]

I despise Apple, too, maybe for different reasons. Their 30% cut for access to the istore is usary. They make nothing themselves and are societal leaches. It was a pleasure to learn how Nissan and Hyundai rebuffed Apple's proposal to become the FoxConn of cars. Itunes to access pics and media is beyond terrible. The only good thing has been willingness to provide users a way to opt out of the human futures market. It's been nice seeing Zuck squirm.

Leaks make the upcoming Sony Xperia 1 III look pretty good. Bootloader unlock likely supported, too.

You're literally repeating yourself, down to the dig on Mark Zuckerburg. But sure, point taken.

 

[cmrntnnr]

No thoughts about the Sony? It's a serious upgrade to V30. I know bashing apple is fun. but where to go after the V30 is the point of this thread after all. No notch, 3.5 mm jack, sd card slot, great screen, decent battery. It even comes with a cheesy name. Seems a better choice than an abandoned V50.

 

[tech_infinity]

No thoughts about the Sony? It's a serious upgrade to V30. I know bashing apple is fun. but where to go after the V30 is the point of this thread after all. No notch, 3.5 mm jack, sd card slot, great screen, decent battery. It even comes with a cheesy name. Seems a better choice than an abandoned V50.

sony xperia 1 ii or sony xperia 5 ii would be a great upgrade.
But the availability is an issue.
Its not available in all regions. Importing is an option but that would have compatibility issues with regards to Volte, Vowifi and 5G.
Importing would also significantly increase the price.
But if it is available in your region or you can import it at a reasonable price, then go for it.

 

[ldeveraux]

No thoughts about the Sony? It's a serious upgrade to V30. I know bashing apple is fun. but where to go after the V30 is the point of this thread after all. No notch, 3.5 mm jack, sd card slot, great screen, decent battery. It even comes with a cheesy name. Seems a better choice than an abandoned V50.

Did you even read the past few pages about the V50? It's not abandoned, root/unlock was just achieved a month ago. You're so set on the Sony that you're not even reading any other info, especially that even a used Xperia 1 II is twice the price of the V50, and you can't easily obtain the Xperia 5 II in the US. So go ahead and buy your overpriced phone, nobody's stopping you. Just stop distorting the facts to fit your narrative.

 

[cmrntnnr]

It is great that unlock was finally achieved on the V50. That is approximately 18 months after release. I hope the developer scene, if it is active sustains.

The complaints I lodged against LG apply to the V50. A year an a half is an eternity for LG. It is unlikely that the V50 will see A11 and if it does then Korean models only. Any AOSP roms will be missing VoLTE capability unless a miracle happens and IMS is cracked. In that regard, LG has abandoned the phone. I don't want to relive that aspect of the V30 again. Furthermore, the V50 isn't much of a step up from a V30S. Same ram, same memory, and a now outdated cpu.

The Xperia 1 III, if it is like the other models, will be bootloader unlock and root capable without need for exploits. Devs can work on mods and roms, and roms will work without hurculean efforts to trudge through LG obsucations.

Yes, the Sony is more expensive but it is a more capable phone and one that is better supported. Price is an issue. I'd rather save my pennies and give my money to a company that treats its flagship as such and returns loyalty to its customers. That will let me use the phone for 3 to 5 years after which I will have saved money for a new model with significant improvements.

In terms of availability. No problems getting them on bhphoto or lightly used from swappa.

By all those criteria, the Sony is a better phone and a better "place" to go than a V50 or any LG model.

Did you even read the past few pages about the V50? It's not abandoned, root/unlock was just achieved a month ago. You're so set on the Sony that you're not even reading any other info, especially that even a used Xperia 1 II is twice the price of the V50, and you can't easily obtain the Xperia 5 II in the US. So go ahead and buy your overpriced phone, nobody's stopping you. Just stop distorting the facts to fit your narrative.

 

[ldeveraux]

It is great that unlock was finally achieved on the V50. That is approximately 18 months after release. I hope the developer scene, if it is active sustains.

The complaints I lodged against LG apply to the V50. A year an a half is an eternity for LG. It is unlikely that the V50 will see A11 and if it does then Korean models only. Any AOSP roms will be missing VoLTE capability unless a miracle happens and IMS is cracked. In that regard, LG has abandoned the phone. I don't want to relive that aspect of the V30 again. Furthermore, the V50 isn't much of a step up from a V30S. Same ram, same memory, and a now outdated cpu.

The Xperia 1 III, if it is like the other models, will be bootloader unlock and root capable without need for exploits. Devs can work on mods and roms, and roms will work without hurculean efforts to trudge through LG obsucations.

Yes, the Sony is more expensive but it is a more capable phone and one that is better supported. Price is an issue. I'd rather save my pennies and give my money to a company that treats its flagship as such and returns loyalty to its customers. That will let me use the phone for 3 to 5 years after which I will have saved money for a new model with significant improvements.

In terms of availability. No problems getting them on bhphoto or lightly used from swappa.

By all those criteria, the Sony is a better phone and a better "place" to go than a V50 or any LG model.

Look, you're clearly not understanding anything here.

We've already mentioned how your nebulous term "updates" don't matter when you root yet you continue to claim LG doesn't update often enough.

You're the only one with the V30S, yet you keep comparing it. The OP was and still is replacing the V30+, not the V30S. If you can't see an upgrade here, get your eyes checked:
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone2=9607&idPhone1=8712

Now you're talking about the Xperia 1 III which isn't released, has no tentative date, and will likely cost well over $1000.

Not sure which device (you keep mentioning different devices) you say there is "no problem getting them", but the Xperia 1 II is $1200 on B&H and there is a single device available on Swappa for a measly $787.

A phone that costs 4x as much as the phone we're replacing is not a viable replacement. To claim it is is completely disingenuous. To also claim the V50, which is maybe 1.5x the cost, is not the right move is also flat out poor advice for most people. Again, we understand you're obviously determined to get one of those grossly overpriced Sonys, but that's you. You were also the one considering an iPhone so we have to take your advice for what it is at this point...

 

[cmrntnnr]

I think we just have different priorities and criteria about where to go.

You advocate for the V50. I've openly presented facts about LG and their phones.

I've highlighted an upcoming alternative about "Where to go", admitted it will be more expensive and shown where it can be purchased.

You seem focused on price. Sure cheaper is better. That said, I think it would be foolish to spend 250 or so USD on an outdated phone that likely won't see A11 and won't get full radio suppport on LOS roms.

I understand perfectly, options matter. Who's to say I'm the only one with a V30S? Who's to say I am the only one who'll buy a Sony? Who's to say I'm the only one that cares about stock rom updates? Everyone should have a chance to see them and make their own criteria for a decision. That is the spirit of these forums. Just becuase you don't agree with someone else's point does not mean that they do not understand English or your point of view. They just have a different view. As the English saying goes - "Suck it up buttercup".

I don't know if English isn't your first language, but you're clearly not understanding anything here.

We've already mentioned how your nebulous term "updates" don't matter yet you continue to claim LG doesn't update often enough.

You're the only one with the V30S, yet you keep comparing it. The OP was and still is replacing the V30+, not the V30S. If you can't see an upgrade here, get your eyes checked:
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone2=9607&idPhone1=8712

Now you're talking about the Xperia 1 III which isn't released, has no tentative date, and will likely cost well over $1000.

Not sure which device (you keep mentioning different devices) you say there is "no problem getting them", but the Xperia 1 II is $1200 on B&H and there is a single device available on Swappa for a measly $787.

A phone that costs 4x as much as the phone we're replacing is not a viable replacement. To claim it is is completely disingenuous. To also claim the V50, which is maybe 1.5x the cost, is not the right move is also flat out poor advice for most people. Again, we understand you're obviously determined to get one of those grossly overpriced Sonys, but that's you. You were also the one considering an iPhone so we have to take your advice for what it is at this point...

 

[ldeveraux]

I think we just have different priorities and criteria about where to go.

You advocate for the V50. I've openly presented facts about LG and their phones.

I've highlighted an upcoming alternative about "Where to go", admitted it will be more expensive and shown where it can be purchased.

You seem focused on price. Sure cheaper is better. That said, I think it would be foolish to spend 250 or so USD on an outdated phone that likely won't see A11 and won't get full radio suppport on LOS roms.

I understand perfectly, options matter. Who's to say I'm the only one with a V30S? Who's to say I am the only one who'll buy a Sony? Who's to say I'm the only one that cares about stock rom updates? Everyone should have a chance to see them and make their own criteria for a decision. That is the spirit of these forums. Just becuase you don't agree with someone else's point does not mean that they do not understand English or your point of view. They just have a different view. As the English saying goes - "Suck it up buttercup".

OK have fun paying $800 so you can get a few more updates!

 

[tech_infinity]

Asus ROG Phone 5 Audio review: An excellent choice for nearly any use case - DXOMARK

The Asus ROG Phone 5 delivers the best audio performance we've tested so far, with consistent results and category-leading sub-scores in playback and recording,

www.dxomark.com

this states that the upcoming Asus ROG 5 will have a 3.5mm headphone jack with ESS DAC

 

[schwinn8]

@cmrntnnr Maybe this would interest you towards the S10: https://www.engadget.com/samsung-four-years-security-updates-152303907.html

Again, I don't think these updates are that critical - yes I'd love to see security updates for longer, but how many actual attacks have happened due to an exposed security issue? Sure, if someone has your phone then they can more-easily access the data... but I haven't heard of any where the phone was compromised over the internet (other than malware attacks, which happen regardless of security updates).

Still, it's always good to see that they are pushing them out longer...

 

[ldeveraux]

Since the V50 and the G8 are both unlocked with the same procedure, what's the difference between them? G8 seems to have a smaller screen, smaller battery, and is lighter, but is that it?

Compare LG V50 ThinQ 5G vs. LG G8 ThinQ - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com

 

[anubus45]

Asus ROG Phone 5 Audio review: An excellent choice for nearly any use case - DXOMARK

The Asus ROG Phone 5 delivers the best audio performance we've tested so far, with consistent results and category-leading sub-scores in playback and recording,

www.dxomark.com

this states that the upcoming Asus ROG 5 will have a 3.5mm headphone jack with ESS DAC

I saw this as well, and I'm curious what people think of this as a potential upgrade path.

Obviously we don't know full details yet, but if they have a 3.5mm headphone jack and no notch or hole in the display, it will be a strong start. I know that the dual front facing speakers would also be a nice to have -- that was one of the things I gave up when I moved to the V30.
I'm less sure what the development community around the Asus phones tends to be like though, as BL unlock and root at a minimum are other hard lines in the sand for me.

Can't say I love the ROG aesthetic on a phone, but if it has all of the above, and maybe some nice to haves (LOS support, expandable storage, and camera quality at least on-par with the V30), I may strongly consider finally upgrading.

 

[tech_infinity]

I saw this as well, and I'm curious what people think of this as a potential upgrade path.

Obviously we don't know full details yet, but if they have a 3.5mm headphone jack and no notch or hole in the display, it will be a strong start. I know that the dual front facing speakers would also be a nice to have -- that was one of the things I gave up when I moved to the V30.
I'm less sure what the development community around the Asus phones tends to be like though, as BL unlock and root at a minimum are other hard lines in the sand for me.

Can't say I love the ROG aesthetic on a phone, but if it has all of the above, and maybe some nice to haves (LOS support, expandable storage, and camera quality at least on-par with the V30), I may strongly consider finally upgrading.

Asus sent ROG3 to a few devs to support development.
Development is decent Okay-ish on Asus phones afaik

Many Apps are starting to refuse to work on unlocked bootloader even with Magisk, so I probably won't be rooting the next phone I buy, so development isn't a priority for me.

 

[ChazzMatt]

Asus ROG Phone 5 Audio review: An excellent choice for nearly any use case - DXOMARK

The Asus ROG Phone 5 delivers the best audio performance we've tested so far, with consistent results and category-leading sub-scores in playback and recording,

www.dxomark.com

this states that the upcoming Asus ROG 5 will have a 3.5mm headphone jack with ESS DAC

Here in the U.S. we also have to be concerned with VoLTE requirements for non-carrier variants when HSPA disappears. AT&T in February 2022, so I have a year. If I change phones by then, I need to keep that in mind. I'm not sure the Asus ROG would be eligible for AT&T VoLTE.

My V30+ says VoLTE is enabled in the Hidden Menu, but I still drop down to HSPA when phone calls are made. So, maybe something AT&T needs to do on their end. Again, I have a year, so I can find time to go to the store later.

If I got the Samsung Galaxy S10+, it would be the AT&T variant, but network unlocked by dealer.

That one above is new in box (allegedly), but there's also refurbs available.

"New" gets you more choice of storage and colors.

 

[tech_infinity]

Here in the U.S. we also have to be concerned with VoLTE requirements for non-carrier variants when HSPA disappears. AT&T in February 2022, so I have a year. If I change phones by then, I need to keep that in mind. I'm not sure the Asus ROG would be eligible for AT&T VoLTE.

My V30+ says VoLTE is enabled in the Hidden Menu, but I still drop down to HSPA when phone calls are made. So, maybe something AT&T needs to do on their end. Again, I have a year, so I can find time to go to the store later.

If I got the Samsung Galaxy S10+, it would be the AT&T variant, but network unlocked by dealer.

That one above is new in box (allegedly), but there's also refurbs available.

"New" gets you more choice of storage and colors.

S10+ is a good phone, but I feel the cut out looks uglier compared to S10 (because it is bigger on plus variant for dual cameras)

 

[ldeveraux]

That G8/V50 rooting thread is an absolute disaster right now. The OP never replies to the thread and people are bricking left and right. Yikes, sticking with the V30 for now!

 

[Lenster45]

Finally bit the bullet and gat a V50. I looked at the S20 but no SDCard. I looked at the V60 but too big.
My V30 had lines on the screen and bad battery life. So living without root seems a good tradeoff.

 

[ChazzMatt]

The LG V70 could be on indefinite hold

Report: The LG V60 successor could be on indefinite hold

LG and carrier partners have reportedly decided against field testing the V60 successor dubbed Rainbow, pointing to an indefinite delay.

www.androidauthority.com

Code named "Rainbow". The article has a poll whether you would be interested in the LG V70 if ever released. Yet they give almost no specs.

Did LG come back to their senses and offer 1440p single screen, instead of the 1080p dual screen (even winged screen) nonsense? Does it still have headset jack with quad DAC?

Has a stylus? I'm not interested in a stylus.

At least it would have top tier Snapdragon 888 chipset instead of mid-tier Snapdragon 7xx.