White AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note SGH-I717, possible defect

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clockcycle

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Discovered a hair line crack today on my White AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note SGH-I717. Took it to a corporate store and the manager told me there isn't anything he can do about it, because it isn't a known, reported issue. Well I am here to be the first. Hopefully this doesn't become a common issue and there is some sort of recourse. Meanwhile I will be posting to let others be aware of this possible defect.

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Where is that. A crack is a crack regardless of reports.

If you are within 3O days the store should swap it. After 30 days you need to call warranty...800-801-1101 i think

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That sucks. But i do recall white iphone 3-3gs having this issue. I hope this doesnt happen to my note.

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A crack, of any kind, is considered to be physical damage, and is therefore not a warranty exchangeable issue. Can only be replaced via insurance claim. If by some miracle, you get a store rep to replace it, then kudos to you!

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Yeap I remember that and the HTC Touch (white) also having reports of similar issues.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1339304-White-HTC-Touch-Cracked-Housing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/jul/31/cracksstarttoappearinnew

A crack, of any kind, is considered to be physical damage, and is therefore not a warranty exchangeable issue. Can only be replaced via insurance claim. If by some miracle, you get a store rep to replace it, then kudos to you!

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Unless it's a seam split caused by faulty manufactures' materials.. Samsung saw the picture and told me to take it back to place of purchase for a replacement. ** We already know how far that's gonna get me..
 
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why dont you just examine the phone in store before you purchase??

The problem with the "Gray Scale" wasn't discovered to be a problem until recently, which this phone has. Also it has reset TWLauncher 4 times, when enabling Wifi via the notification bar, I just chalked it up as crappy programming..

It isnt always there.

The evo had an issue like this...where after a few weeks of use it would crack near the power button.


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Sometimes these things show up later, that is why they are called "manufactures' defects" and have warranty to cover replacements or repairs.


No cracks here. Did you sit on it?

Also, do you really need 2 threads for this?

Sitting on it would have cracked the glass, the chrome or something else no?

Anyways, no haven't sat on it. I carry my phone in my left front pocket, if that might be an issue. I've always carried them there, never happened to any of my black phones..

My bad about the double post, forgot I had posted that question before going to the AT&T store from my phone via Tapatalk..

If a mod would be so kind as to merge the threads, I'd appreciate it, and sorry ;)
 
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I remember the white DS Lite got cracks in the hinge and like people said before the white 3GS and maybe the 3G had some problems with cracks and yellowing. The Note doesn't have a problem since more people would have reported it by now, you probably just got a bit of bad luck.
 

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Sitting on it would have cracked the glass, the chrome or something else no?

Anyways, no haven't sat on it. I carry my phone in my left front pocket, if that might be an issue. I've always carried them there, never happened to any of my black phones..

It's possible. If while flexing the plastic was the weakest part, then sure, it could crack first.

One big thing I have a hard time reading about in this thread, is the focus on just the white models. Ever think that you never saw any micro cracking on a black device be cause the crack itself was black? If it didn't stand out like it would on a white device, you wouldn't even know to look for it.

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It's possible. If while flexing the plastic was the weakest part, then sure, it could crack first.

One big thing I have a hard time reading about in this thread, is the focus on just the white models. Ever think that you never saw any micro cracking on a black device be cause the crack itself was black? If it didn't stand out like it would on a white device, you wouldn't even know to look for it.

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This is true, although what happens eventually with these cracks is air, moisture, dust, sand, debris gets into the split and eventually into the screen which would be visible regardless of the color of the phone's casing. I guess black material is more flexible.

Another bigger problem is that split may eventually become bigger and worse yet is get caught on something and snap off. I have seen the issue with cracks near the power and volume rockers, from the normal pressure of the user pressing the area which is open and more delicate after long term use... Eventually splitting at two ends and part of the bezel falling off. ** They claim this is physical damage, which in part is true, but only because the quality of the materials was questionable in the first place.

Again, personally I'm not too bothered. But the Samsung Warranty rep mentioned exactly that (above) and if that were to eventually happen, it would not be covered under the warranty and then be considered physical damage.

I then reminded her what a 00mred00 reminded me of..


Did you buy from att? This is covered by att if you bought it from them. You have to contact warranty support though. i posted the number in your other thread. Going to inspect my white note later tonight

Shame in samsung for telling you that. Subsequent damage caused by warranty defect would be covered.

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And she reluctantly agreed.

It's like saying Toyota doesn't have to compensate a user for having faulty breaking system or electrical problems with acceleration on their cars. Because the user crashed and totaled the car, dismissing the user, claiming physical damage.. ofc some people will just take that, others won't and if enough don't accept that as the answer, then the manufacturer will have to address the problem, but only until then.. If they can get away with it..

Honestly I hope this is an isolated problem, only affecting a very few owners. And I just happen to get one of the affected units. Because truthfully I absolutely love the phone and if I were to get a replacement, I would want another white one with the hopes of it not happening again, at least to me ;)
 
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** RESOLVED (sort of, but I couldn't close) details within...

I have to write this to let people know there is a solution and to give credit where credit is due.

So after going to DSC, they couldn't help me because they don't have the Note to exchange. They recommended I go back to the store.

I went to a store about a block away, explained. They told me I would have to go back to the original store and speak directly to the manager, not to waste time with rep. Explain the situation and have her do an exception and do the replacement.

Instead, I went to one last AT&T store, one that happens to be in a more posh neighborhood. Went directly to a manager (Rick, Coral Cables FL Store). Explained everything, told him what DSC, the other store, AT&T warranty support and Samsung Warranty Support all told me to do. He looked at the phone, looked at a display phone. Went to a rep (Yavon, Coral Gables FL Store) and told him to get me a new replacement.

Trouble started for me, when they tried to look up the account, purchase, via the IMEI on their system. It didn't show up. Happen to be another Manager in a suit and tie was there and helped the rep. Issue here is that it was pre-ordered via online Feb. 15th for the Feb. 17th delivery. Fine they found that.

Here's the next problem, the phone was no longer registered on their system because the original phone number was ported out to another carrier. So they had no active account to complete the swap/replacement..

Brand new replacement box was right in front of me within my grasp and almost in my hands. Alas I could not close the deal because of the technicality. But it goes to prove that it can be done, calmly.. Just have to find the right person. Someone mentioned once, you need to find the person that is there to help you get the issue resolved and doesn't take the exchange/replacement personally.

Again, I posted this because I know there are people that have this issue, and I know there will be others that will eventually suffer through this. For you and them to know that there is/are several solutions to a legitimate problem.

When I left the store, I told the manager and rep that I was thankful for them having taken the time to actually try to resolve my problem and really tried hard to look into the issue and find a solution. I understand I personally hit a stump as far as how much AT&T can do for "me". I let them know that in other stores they were not so willing and just brushed me off instantly dismissing me. And further putting blame on me having caused the damage, by pure speculation and assumption on their part that it must have been that I dropped it or somehow caused it by some sort of physical damage. They apologized.

My next step is Samsung Warranty Repair.


Hope you find a solution. BTW White Note ROCKS! :cool::thumbup:

-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke

Size matters ;)
 
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kevinjgray88

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Yup same hairline crack on left side in line with bottom of volume rocker. I use a Samsung flip case and do not pocket it

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    On my old 3GS I had that problem. Hopefully the same doesn't happen on my Note.
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    White one too? If so, that is interesting. Wonder what makes them more brittle...or maybe they just show the cracks more?

    Yup. My white 3GS. Some where in India now though. Good riddance. But I do recall something happening with the Nexus One where it would crack near the power button sometimes.
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    Same issue - Right side about an inch or so below the power button.

    It's got to be a pressure point failure on the device.
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    Ok people, here is my two cents on this problem. Since this is happening in only a couple of places to multiple phones, I'm thinking it was actually an assymbly issue. If the cracks are appearing in roughly the same place on both sides of the glass from phone to phone, we can rule out several things. First, this is not user error. Second, its not due to dropping. Third, there is no way that the rest of the screen would be intact if it was a manufacturing defect. If the glass was faulty on one, it would be faulty on all. Since this is a hit or miss issue, it tells us a couple more things. First, it has to be something after the manufature of the glass but before it hits shelves, therefore assymbly. Second, since it cracks just to the extent of maybe a couple of mills, more then likely, it is a stress fracture relieving the stress. If it was anything else, like a glass defect or something to that extent, then the crack would not stop that quick. I think that this is an issolated event, something like a screw or clip that was not fastened properly or not inserted properly, so its causing stress on the glass and cuasing these stress fractures. Again, this is just my two cents but then again what do i know...