who needs S-OFF?.......

[sgt. slaughter]

So S-On and unlocked has the image of being unable to flash radios, and also have the bad rap that you can't flash kernels without going through fastboot......


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692367
Whats that? kernels flashed directly from recovery on S-ON Devices which are unlocked....(still trying to confirm this one as showp and faux over in one x still list it in the instructions of their kernels)...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26987841&postcount=966
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
Oh you want to flash your little radios all day long?.....


Just an example people shouldn't worry too much about S-On devices....development always prevails.

would more than welcome any RD or ERD to chime in on this too and explain it a little more or dispute it if they see fit.


lil more talk on it kinda...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639972&page=99

 

[regulator207]

I was wondering this myself. Thanks for the references

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[swaze]

So S-On and unlocked has the image of being unable to flash radios, and also have the bad rap that you can't flash kernels without going through fastboot......


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692367
Whats that? kernels flashed directly from recovery on S-ON Devices which are unlocked....(still trying to confirm this one as showp and faux over in one x still list it in the instructions of their kernels)...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26987841&postcount=966
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
Oh you want to flash your little radios all day long?.....


Just an example people shouldn't worry too much about S-On devices....development always prevails.

would more than welcome any RD or ERD to chime in on this too and explain it a little more or dispute it if they see fit.


lil more talk on it kinda...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639972&page=99

Where is that guy watermelonslim.....I could use a good laugh

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[sgt. slaughter]

Where is that guy watermelonslim.....I could use a good laugh

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hahahahahaha good times there. lol


"i wanna flash my radios tho..."

 

[Riff76]

hahahahahaha good times there. lol


"i wanna flash my radios tho..."

I can PM him and tell him to come on over LOL

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[gpz1100]

I agree, for now there's little benefit of having s-off. For me, I prefer not to have my device listed in htc's database as being unlocked.

More importantly however, once there are other updates such as radios, and other low level updates, the process to update will become more convoluted I think. You'll have to run relock (I think), then ruu, then unlock again, then restore.

With S-off, you simply flash the new radio or other update and it's a done deal.

 

[StonePure]

Wouldn't s-off be necessary for switching between carriers? Since LTE wouldn't be available until 2013 for some markets why not save a few dollars.

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[sgt. slaughter]

Wouldn't s-off be necessary for switching between carriers? Since LTE wouldn't be available until 2013 for some markets why not save a few dollars.

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your not switching b/w carriers with this device....even with S-Off....hardware is not there to work on the other freq, esp other LTE ones....

 

[StonePure]

Well that reinforces why I am sticking with my OG EVO 4g on Virgin, I just can't stand to pay $90 mo for the same service at $35 mo.

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[Rydah]

Interesting... thanks! I needed to know this!

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[Cuppeerr]

I just like having s-off lol but with dev unlock improved it doesn't matter as much now

 

[StonePure]

I typed too soon... Someone may have already have this beauty on cricket. If that is the case s-off isn't necessary.
Ok off to buy this beauty before they alter it somehow - besides I can gift it off to girlfriend if it can't be done.




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[Evo_Shift]

I care about my warranty. No other reason.

 

[mrrogers1]

I care about my warranty. No other reason.

Are you sending your phone to HTC for warranty issues because "most" device "fixing" happens at the Sprint store level OR through Asurion and they don't hold root/HTC Dev unlock against you.

Saving your HTC warranty is practically a moot point..... but as always, to each, his own. I'm sure you won't see anyone knocking you for going your own road.

 

[Evo_Shift]

I don't waste money on insurance. Once I've had the phone a couple weeks and know it doesn't have any defects i don't care but in the first few weeks i do.

I didn't realize sprint didn't care about unlocking though. I am surprised people are always so concerned with unrooting when bringing their phones in for issues in that case.

 

[mrrogers1]

I don't waste money on insurance. Once I've had the phone a couple weeks and know it doesn't have any defects i don't care but in the first few weeks i do.

I didn't realize sprint didn't care about unlocking though. I am surprised people are always so concerned with unrooting when bringing their phones in for issues in that case.

I'm not talking about insurance, Sprint can't (shouldn't) turn you away for warranty issues of any kind (*within the warranty period). If you remove TEP, $8 and soon to be $11, which includes the ERP (Equipment Replacement Program) and the ESRP (Equipment Service & Replacement Program) you can still pay in store for a repair and avoid having to go through, what I'm sure would be, a painful warranty claim with HTC. I actually don't even think HTC would not honor their warranty if you use the Unlock and need a "hardware" warranty claim having absolutely nothing to do with rooting the device. Who knows though.... I do know, if you have no insurance or the ESRP at minimum, you'll be looking at a charge or the HTC direct route. I would recommend at least the $4 a month ESRP as we know how speakers and screens can be (at least in the past) the weakest links and need replacement.

As for the rooted devices being ok (this is very new and the worry before was pretty real), you can read an article and see the internal memo here http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/17/...-provide-customer-support-for-rooted-devices/. With that said, I'll never voluntarily take my rooted device in, they don't need know that info!

 

[ckoadiyn]

I never s on my device I just unroot lol o and take my sdcard out just in case but you have to be brave to not take your sd card out if you have personal things on there.
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[sgt. slaughter]

Well that reinforces why I am sticking with my OG EVO 4g on Virgin, I just can't stand to pay $90 mo for the same service at $35 mo.

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Ohhhhh you ment carrier as in cricket or Virgin...gotcha. yeah dunno if SOFF would be req for that on here still or not.
When I originally responded I thought you meant like ATT or VZ b/c you mentioned LTE bands and they are completely different there for those on top of ATT being gsm...

 

[ckoadiyn]

Ohhhhh you ment carrier as in cricket or Virgin...gotcha. yeah dunno if SOFF would be req for that on here still or not.
When I originally responded I thought you meant like ATT or VZ b/c you mentioned LTE bands and they are completely different there for those on top of ATT being gsm...

"You gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!"- Raphael tmnt

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[wileout]

Does anyone know if we can change splash screens on this phone with S-ON? I only ask because i know on the 3d we couldnt do kernels thru recovery but we can now, i didnt know if it would be possible or not.

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