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Question Why does my Pixel 6 Pro when idling uses more battery than my Nexus 5 when idling

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minun

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I've recently upgraded to the Google Pixel 6 Pro after 8 years with the Google Nexus 5, so, this would be my first time with a "modern" smartphone as of present
Everything is wonderful except one thing, the battery life


When idling (I do not touch the phone at all, rarely or no lock/unlock) I watched my Pixel 6 Pro drained 6% in the span of 2 hours, so roughly 3% per hour (That is a lot!), compared to my Nexus 5 which feels like it drained 5% if left alone for the whole day


What is going on? is it a "modern" phone thing? is it my phone? my settings? at this rate, it needs to be charged daily


Here is the Battery Usage breakdown;


Battery Usage breakdown while asleep;


Why does "Mobile Network Standby", "Ambient Display", "Phone Idle" eat so much battery while idling, I am thinking of getting rid of "Your Phone Companion" even though I find it useful, conflicted if it is worth the battery, everything else looks good

EDIT: I am happy to say, after uninstalling "Your Phone Companion" the battery began to show improvement and following all the battery tips helped me maximize it, now I feel like I can go 3 days with the phone without charging it
 
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TonikJDK

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In one of the battery threads Mobile Network Standby is a big topic. It appears to be a bug that is impacting some people. I would expect a fix from goggle for that. I have nothing on ambient display.
 

RetroTech07

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It's highly possible your phone isn't ever going into a deep sleep, which can cause unnecessary battery drain from apps that are stuck running in the background, or causing the phone to "wake". Did you transfer over all your apps and settings from your old phone? Some have said this has caused unusual high battery drain, and a factory reset where you don't restore from backup has helped.

Install AccuBattery or GSam battery monitor to get an understanding of your battery usage in greater detail.


 

minun

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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery

I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
 

RetroTech07

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At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.

Here's how mine looks.
 

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Lughnasadh

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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery

I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.

Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
 

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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.

Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now

I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G

Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is

WiFi needs to be on

Bluetooth is always off

Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning

Lift to wake is off
 

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I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now

I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G

Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is

WiFi needs to be on

Bluetooth is always off

Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning

Lift to wake is off
If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.

Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.

I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.

Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
 

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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.

Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.

I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.

Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
I would also like to get to that level

the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app

what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
 

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I would also like to get to that level

the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app

what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.

Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).

Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.

I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
 

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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.

Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).

Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.

I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
Okay, sounds great

just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
 

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Okay, sounds great

just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
 
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RetroTech07

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I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G

Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.

If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.

Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,

Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.

Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
 

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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.

If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.

Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,

Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.

Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
If I turn off Adaptive Connectivity, it would just stay on LTE and won't switch between 5g (setLTE is my preferred network),3g,2g?

how about "Allow 2G", do I need this on and would turning it off save battery? it read
'Use 2G mobile connections. For emergency calls, 2G is always turned on.'
 

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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.

Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
 

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    Since the P6 has a mighty and power hungry flagship processor that is not nearly as efficient as that midrange gimper from the P5, that comparison will always disappoint. You compare an apple to a banana.

    I believe that the P6 idle drain is still worse than need be, meaning Google should be able to slightly tone it down with patches, but it will be never as good as a midrange Qualcomm variant.

    Even comparing the mid-range SD 765G to the Tensor it still makes the Tensor look bad. I'm not saying a high end processor should be more efficient than a mid range one but come on, the Tensor stand by drain is almost DOUBLE what it is on the SD 765G.

    And what about the Pixel 2 XL? That had the SD 835 which was a very high end processor at the time. It was the best you could get in an Android phone at the time. So in that case we are comparing a high end processor from today to a high end processor from FOUR years ago. A high end processor today should be MORE efficient than a high end processor from FOUR years ago. Instead the stand by drain of the Tensor is close to FOUR times higher than the stand by drain of the old SD 835. That's just pathetic.

    Or maybe you want to compare the Pixel 6 Pro's stand by drain to what is probably it's closest current competition, the SD 888 version of the Galaxy S21 Ultra. Both have a top of the line processor and a 5,000mAh battery. The S21 Ultra has significantly better stand by drain than the Pixel 6 Pro and that's even with the S21 Ultra's huge disadvantage of having much less efficient software (One UI is horrible with power efficiency).

    Oh and that is all based on being on wifi. Due to the Pixel 6's awful Exynos 5123 the gap grows much bigger when not on wifi.

    Software updates COULD help some but they never do. Just look at Google's history with that. Google has claimed many times that an update (both major releases and monthly updates) was supposed to improve battery life. I've had Google phones for the last 8 years and never has that claim ever turned out to be true. Even the big claims like "Adaptive Battery" in Android 9 and "Project Volta" in Android 5. Both are total failures.

    The kind of power inefficiency issues the Tensor and Exynos modem have are very unlikely to fix the power inefficiency issues with the Tensor and Exynos modem. Especially considering Google's poor history.
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    Root and custom kernel such as CleanSlate, although I had long battery life on the stock kernel as well.
    Hmm I have not done that since the Nexus 6. I also have work apps that are installed in the work profile and my company does not allow rooted phones. I get money just having my work's email app installed and opening it once a month.
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    Okay, sounds great

    just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
    If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
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    I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G

    Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
    Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.

    If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.

    Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,

    Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.

    Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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    Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
    Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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    Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
    That's it! Just turned it off, I must've forgotten about that one lol. Thanks :)
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    No, that's not how adaptive connectivity works. Your phone will always prefer the highest tier network available (as long it get's a signal).

    According to Google (which is why i asked the question)

    Adaptive Connectivity turns on 5G only when your app needs increased speed, like when you stream or download videos.