Why I will never upgrade to the Note 5

[gekkehenkie11]

The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.

Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8

That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.

 

[Toss3]

The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.

Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8

That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.

Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.

 

[gekkehenkie11]

Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.

Can you shoot a video ? I used this app, it's really simple: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free

Just put it at 60 hz because that's your screens refresh rate (otherwise it will introduce recording stuttering). Thanks !

 

[tmac31]

Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.

i can confirm this there is absouletly no stuttering in recent apps aswell i can also add both s6 edge and note edge is very fluid too with 5.1.1.

 

[gekkehenkie11]

i can confirm this there is absouletly no stuttering in recent apps aswell i can also add both s6 edge and note edge is very fluid too with 5.1.1.

Then maybe YOU can shoot that video ? Somehow people here state how fluid the Note4 exynos on Touchwiz it is but dont want to actually show it.

It takes literally only a few minutes of your time.

Thanks.

 

[tmac31]

Then maybe YOU can shoot that video ? Somehow people here state how fluid the Note4 exynos it is but dont want to actually show it.

Or, wait, you are on a snapdragon according to your sig ? In that case, you must be joking. It's even WAY worse than the Note 5 when running touchwiz.

Thanks.

my note edge is snapdragon and yes there is just no scrolling lag in recents but there was in 5.0. btw i believe you are understanding that video wrong there is no stutter in recents but there is sttuter in apps like twitter and i can say scrolling in s6 edge is bad aswell but somehow note 4 scrolling is pretty smooth i just have no idea how. again stutter isnt in recents but in apps.

check this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note-5-scrolling-behaviour-t3195672

 

[gekkehenkie11]

my note edge is snapdragon and yes there is just no scrolling lag in recents but there was in 5.0. btw i believe you are understanding that video wrong there is no stutter in recents but there is sttuter in apps like twitter and i can say scrolling in s6 edge is bad aswell but somehow note 4 scrolling is pretty smooth i just have no idea how. again stutter isnt in recents but in apps.

check this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note-5-scrolling-behaviour-t3195672

I'm downloading touchwiz 5.1.1 right now and will shoot a video myself then. I'm sure it's horribly stuttering too. That's just what touchwiz does.

 

[Toss3]

Can you shoot a video ? I used this app, it's really simple: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free

Just put it at 60 hz because that's your screens refresh rate (otherwise it will introduce recording stuttering). Thanks !

Yup will upload it soon; had to switch batteries.

EDIT: Cannot record anything without making everything stutter like crazy. So recording the screen isn't going to show how smooth it really is.

 

[gekkehenkie11]

Yup will upload it soon; had to switch batteries.

Ok looking forward to it ! Will shoot a video on touchwiz 5.1.1 snapdragon myself too, for the fun of it.

 

[tmac31]

I'm downloading touchwiz 5.1.1 right now and will shoot a video myself then. I'm sure it's horribly stuttering too.

do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.

about note5 and s6:

apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE

 

[gekkehenkie11]

do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.

about note5 and s6:

apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE

It just pisses me off somewhat. I mean all that beautiful hardware Samsung puts in their phones. Probably the best out there. And then they ruin everything with Touchwiz ... It's sad.

 

[Toss3]

do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.

about note5 and s6:

apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE

In which ways are the apps laggy? (edit: noticed you said themes so ignore this) Cannot say I notice any "lag" apart from the occasional stutter on my n910c (wanamlite's rom and googy_anas' 2.0 kernel (default settings (gentle_fair_sleepers off))). Have you checked the Profile GPU rendering graphs? I usually see stutters in most apps when loading content in the background when scrolling, but should be pretty smooth (60fps) almost 99% of the time. No wonder the scrolling is so slow on iOS.

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Ok looking forward to it ! Will shoot a video on touchwiz 5.1.1 snapdragon myself too, for the fun of it.

The screen recording app makes the phone stutter like crazy so I cannot shoot a video that would show off how smooth it really is. Maybe that's why the note 5 appears to lag in the video? I can use an external camera to shoot me scrolling through my opened apps, but wouldn't want to bother. But if you require proof I'll be happy to provide it.

 

[tmac31]

In which ways are the apps laggy? (edit: noticed you said themes so ignore this) Cannot say I notice any "lag" apart from the occasional stutter on my n910c (wanamlite's rom and googy_anas' 2.0 kernel (default settings (gentle_fair_sleepers off))). Have you checked the Profile GPU rendering graphs? I usually see stutters in most apps when loading content in the background when scrolling, but should be pretty smooth (60fps) almost 99% of the time. No wonder the scrolling is so slow on iOS.

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The screen recording app makes the phone stutter like crazy so I cannot shoot a video that would show off how smooth it really is. Maybe that's why the note 5 appears to lag in the video? I can use an external camera to shoot me scrolling through my opened apps, but wouldn't want to bother. But if you require proof I'll be happy to provide it.

no i was talking about note5 and s6 scrolling lag in 3rd party apps note4 is better in scrolling

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...viour-t3195672

 

[gekkehenkie11]

about note5 and s6:

apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE

I must stand corrected ! I just installed TW 5.1.1 on my note 4 (I hadnt even bothered, yes I hate touchwiz THAT much). And you were right, the recent app screen is WAY better than in 5.0. Maybe the recent apps will be better for the Note 5 then when Samsung releases 6.0 for them.

 

[PieOfJustice]

I must stand corrected ! I just installed TW 5.1.1 on my note 4 (I hadnt even bothered, yes I hate touchwiz THAT much). And you were right, the recent app screen is WAY better than in 5.0. Maybe the recent apps will be better for the Note 5 then when Samsung releases 6.0 for them.

Then you should really try TEKXodus N4 URv3.3

It's very snappy with its latest update. It's getting through till my 6P arrives.

 

[Boody hegan]

Now i'm happy note 4 user
with custom rom and like a boss

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It just pisses me off somewhat. I mean all that beautiful hardware Samsung puts in their phones. Probably the best out there. And then they ruin everything with Touchwiz ... It's sad.

100%
that's why they keep losing every year ...
not like S3 when it came everone loved samsung
they keep ruining everything ..

 

[haandroidhs]

I'm using n910c there is no lag what so ever.

 

[@home]

Once you have used the Note 5 for awhile & go back to the Note 4 it does feel antiquated both software & hardware.

Don't get me wrong I have note 4 N910C & it's great but to use, feel & look at the Note 5 has it beat.

SD card aside, I never changed batteries, get the Note 5 & you won't want to go back.

 

[kolembo]

Have the Note 4 and went looking for a Note 5 64. Couldn't find one and I wasn't going to be stuck with 32.

I got the S6 edge+

The Note is an excellent phone. However, the more I pick up and put down the edge+ the more I understand how wide the gap is with the illusion of quality.

The edge is a beautiful phone, and feels really special in the hand. The Note 4 is more comfortable to hold and use. I carry them both, and mostly reach for the Note to do anything worky. It's just more reliable. And the removable battery and expandable memory makes is a lot more useful.

I find myself reaching for the edge more and more. It's smooth, it's beautiful, there's something there that's not um tangible. I'm beginning to make excuses to use it - I feel far more special afterward than I do with the Note.

I can see how, if one had the 5, it would be difficult to reach for the 4.

The materials actually DO change completely, how you relate to the phone.

The thing is - the Note 4 remains far more functional, far more reliable, far more efficient, and itself, is beautifully constructed.

Where the edge is sophisticated, the Note has class.

Does that make sense?

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[toofimoofi]

The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.

Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8

That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.

Thought Note 4 only had cm12.