WiFi strength, range, and throughput

ludovicien

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Wi-Fi and mobile data reception are poor on this phone. I now realize I was a bit harsh on the Axon 7 I sent back and that I've been spoiled by having an Honor 7 for a year, which excelled at both.
 

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Wi-Fi and mobile data reception are poor on this phone. I now realize I was a bit harsh on the Axon 7 I sent back and that I've been spoiled by having an Honor 7 for a year, which excelled at both.
Do you get different Speedtest results on the 10? I've tested the speed on my laptop and a S7, both get excellent results, but the 10 unfortunately not. I'm on Nougat.
 

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Stock EU. I have about 14 routers in neighborhood and a heliport and weather station (radar) of a hospital like 50 metres away. So we have to coexist on some few channels that do not have to be freed when a heli arrives.

Also i have to use low numbered channels to bypass the DFS waiting caused by radar, e.g. 36 to 48. In fact i have to live with lower bandwith. Since in 5Ghz higher channels grant little mor throughput.

In 2.4 Ghz Wifi i have to live with all my neigbours. So i and many others share channels 1, 6 , 11. All others get connection issues ;) It is their problem not ours. They dont know about coexistance.

Router: AVM FritzBox 6490.

The router is amplifying its bandwith by usage. I can walk 2 floors downstairs with enabled 5 Ghz.

I have to say this is by far the fastest and most stable WLAN expirience i got so far in my life.

With the HTC 10 I can even reach a WLan hotspot from my DSL provider that is somewhere in this district. I could not reach this before with my old HTC One S (Testing while sitting in my flat).

Maybe this has to do with some special routers / firmwares? I know i had problems with my old smartphone with an older AVM product.

PS.: I was interested on how you measure the throughput exactly. Maybe i see wrong information or think my wlan is sufficient, while it is not. I was interested in comparing results under same conditions.
 
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Haldi4803

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PS.: I was interested on how you measure the throughput exactly. Maybe i see wrong information or think my wlan is sufficient, while it is not. I was interested in comparing results under same conditions.
You install aPerf or similar on your phone and iPerf or Jperf on your computer which has a wired connection to the Router/WLan Hotspot.

But it's actually pretty easy to differ by Range.
Your phone has a bigger range than Device X means it has better signal.
 

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Ah ok now i found out something. The fritzbox by avm actually has a iperf installed. And they offer a tool to measure this. Fritz App WLAN. According to this when i'm in the same room as the router in 5 ghz connection it says with a life monitor:

Channel 48 - 5,24 Ghz - WPA2
-53 dbm, 650 Mbit/s

When i go in the most far away room in my flat to the corner almost outside the building it goes down to:
-60 dbm, 260 Mbit/s

Now is this good or not? I dont know. My ISP can offer me 100 Mbit downstream currently. So my internet is not slowed by WLan.
 

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That's 650Mbit/s theoretical performance right?
You can also see that value if you got to WiFi settings and click on the current connected Network.

If you go to developer settings, and select advanced WiFi logging, you can see the RSSI levels also in WiFi settings.
I'm currently standing in front of my router and have -52db and 270mbits.
In the other room I get -78db and 240mbits
 
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Uhm i just figured it seems to not be sufficient to just enable the Iperf on the router. Somehow the app still blames about theres no Iperf server enabled.

Screen with dev setting

Need to check that. As far as i can see it is quite similar to what the Fritz App WLAN showing.

I'm currently standing in front of my router and have -52db and 270mbits.
In the other room I get -78db and 240mbits
So thats when you directly stand next to it? In the UI of my router it states that it could even connect with 780 / 650 Mbit/s. <- I think this was the theoretical value already?
 
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My HTC 10 is about 2 years old, and from about 4 months ago until now it has been having some weird kernel related wakelocks.
It barely holds a full battery charge for 24 hours, if I leave it all day sitting idle on my desk. According to GSAM, it drains 3%+ per hour while idle.
I've tried every trick I could find on the web, even factory resets and installing custom ROMs (currently on LeeDroid), the only thing that stops the wakelock is if I turn airplane mode on.
I have to keep bluetooth on due to earpiece and smartwatch, but even with bluetooth off it drains the same. Wifi is off unless I need it, location is on battery saving mode, wifi and bt scanning is off.
According to GSAM and BBS, the wakelock is not related to any particular app, it's about bluetimer or some power manager process. This leads me to believe that it's somehow hardware related.

I say this, because, at about the same time that the wakelock showed up (it just happened suddenly, I didn't install or uninstall anything nor did I mess with any configuration prior to its appearance), the wifi quality, although not the best, dropped to near unusable tier.
My router is just behind a brick wall from where I usually work. Before the wakelock, the phone could catch a decent signal with two brick walls between it and the router. Now, where I work, the phone catches full signal but has trouble keeping a stable connection. Even with a full wifi signal, there's often errors due to loss of connection. Doing app updates from the Play Store takes ages, it almost looks like that it's downloading at dial-up speeds, even if I move and put the phone right next to the router.

The phone is out of warranty and I don't know how and where to fix it, nor how much it would cost to fix and if it would be like new, or even if it's fixable. I like this bugger, but I think that it's time to shelf it.
 

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My HTC 10 is about 2 years old, and from about 4 months ago until now it has been having some weird kernel related wakelocks.
It barely holds a full battery charge for 24 hours, if I leave it all day sitting idle on my desk. According to GSAM, it drains 3%+ per hour while idle.
I've tried every trick I could find on the web, even factory resets and installing custom ROMs (currently on LeeDroid), the only thing that stops the wakelock is if I turn airplane mode on.
I have to keep bluetooth on due to earpiece and smartwatch, but even with bluetooth off it drains the same. Wifi is off unless I need it, location is on battery saving mode, wifi and bt scanning is off.
According to GSAM and BBS, the wakelock is not related to any particular app, it's about bluetimer or some power manager process. This leads me to believe that it's somehow hardware related.

I say this, because, at about the same time that the wakelock showed up (it just happened suddenly, I didn't install or uninstall anything nor did I mess with any configuration prior to its appearance), the wifi quality, although not the best, dropped to near unusable tier.
My router is just behind a brick wall from where I usually work. Before the wakelock, the phone could catch a decent signal with two brick walls between it and the router. Now, where I work, the phone catches full signal but has trouble keeping a stable connection. Even with a full wifi signal, there's often errors due to loss of connection. Doing app updates from the Play Store takes ages, it almost looks like that it's downloading at dial-up speeds, even if I move and put the phone right next to the router.

The phone is out of warranty and I don't know how and where to fix it, nor how much it would cost to fix and if it would be like new, or even if it's fixable. I like this bugger, but I think that it's time to shelf it.
Something happened 4 months ago, so twrp backup 1st, then restore a backup prior to 4 months ago. Any improvement?
Has the router been restarted at any time, like this month or year even?
You say the router is at work, that sometimes you have reasonable signal strength but poor throughput. Are there others in your place of work connected to the router?
If you're able, restart the router (unplug it for a few seconds, not soft restart). Does signal strength/throughput improve immediately afterwards?
Many questions and no answers I know but getting to the bottom of these things isn't so difficult.


Try not to be too influenced by reports of difficulties from other owners. If people who have no problems were to report as much, those with issues would be a tiny fraction of the total reports. it's easy to become discouraged by the apparently similar experiences of others. As an example I've recently moved objects or routers away from objects such as coffee makers, aquariums, microwaves, mirrors, fire extinguishers (the list goes on) all with success in improving throughput. Yet the owners had been prepared to replace their phones.


Good luck
 

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YMMV. Slightly better than my old DHD, beats out all my laptops. A friend with another 10 running Oreo (mine runs Nougat) can't get reception 3m from the wall in the room next door to the router.
 

Nick.Mon

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HORRIBLE WIFI. Drops connection one room away from the router. Resets to a crawling speed. Cannot even stream a song. No other phone in my house does that.
With a flaw like this, how come its overall rating comes to 4.15 ?... That's ridiculous.