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DebianDog

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This guy said it quite well. Maybe you should follow his lead @DebianDog. Nothing wrong with camera :)
Rooter you have already shown you don't understand the problem or even agree with that there is one.

The phone itself takes a pretty good picture the application is the problem.

Now be a good boy and go back to your great job.

Sent from my Nexus 6
 
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DebianDog

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lol there are many that agree with me. Look at the above posts :) Have a good day
Yes I see there are a few of you. You folks should form a club called #goodenuf for believers that the Android Camera app is good enough, no reason for changes, or even improvements. It's s perfect as it sits. Most of you should be running Kit Kat because that was absolutely the best version of Android there ever was.

You have a good one too.

Sent from my Nexus 6
 
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hutzdani

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I've used the Google Camera app on my Nexus 6 to take 2 dozen pictures that have been used in a our museum's magazine. One was published in the Wall Street Journal as part of a National review of our major summer exhibition. I just send the pictures and I don't care which camera or camera app takes em. Some I take with the museum's high powered Canon, some, when I don't have time to get the camera, I've taken with my Nexus 6.

The Nexus 6 pictures have made our Magazine about as often as the Canon pictures.

If you don't know how to take photos, you blame the camera. :)

Really, great a good photo from the camera was published that tells nothing of how good the camera is.



Its auto focus in camera and video is slow and changes on its own accord during Video.

The 2k video drops frames more than a hooker drops her knickers.

The low light performance is not so good.

The camera takes ages to start up vs other camera apps / other OS's cameras

To get a good photo you need HDR on most shots because the camera is poor in low light

Google need to get the basic functions right first before adding features that's the truth and they have not done so since the nexus s.
 
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camera issues - all fixable with software

Under certain, very narrow circumstances the stock camera and app take a decent still picture.

HDR+ is requisite. Strong but indirect light is also necessary or issues will crop up.

I would rate it (MY OPINION) to be B+ to A- if those two conditions are met. In other words, pretty damn good.

Else it fails miserably as an easy to use camera - expected on a phone. No illusions about it being a pro device. Point and shoot.

I reject the simplistic strawman argument "it's not the camera it's the photographer". This is truly the voice of a lay photographer and a condescending one as well. A proper automatic camera should produce good to very good images most of the time, not just when conditions are ideal.

The video camera is a complete disaster.

Exposure compensation is primitive. Signal to noise is borderline bad.

The test to demonstrate the almost complete absence of CLEAN exposure compensation is easily replicated:

Place someone in front of a single color wall (or a sky) with the source of light behind you. You know, like you were doing a simple video shoot.. Slowly pan up and down and observe the camera adjust exposure , this is referred to as stair-stepping, and blinks as it adjusts.

A video camera makes these transitions smoothly in all but the most extreme circumstances. The iPhone, for example, is like butter with these transitions of bright/contrast. The human eye is also smooth. The N6 is abrupt, choppy and - for video - useless.

The third party video apps allow you to "lock exposure" which is fine for an interview or an otherwise fixed exposure setting. But no one shoots video like that because as soon as ANY movement happens, the scene is over or under-exposed.

What frustrates me is these issues are not rooted with the hardware. They are the video codec and processing. The APIs allow for access to raw .DNG files for stills (which is cool) but the developers have no access to the core processing math for the video. The APIs are hooks to features, not the chewy center.

As noted by others, if Google gave two hoots about this they could fix it.

My $0.02. And, in case you ask, I shoot professional video all the time. I harbor no illusions about what this N6 should be capable of delivering. I also am fine if you think it works to your satisfaction. But do not represent yourself as an expert because you shot indoor photos and used them in a publication because that is a specious argument about the overall quality of the device as a camera.
 
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Five different camera apps to do everything that should be standard on camera apps in 2015 excuses excuses the app suck . Software does do wonders to hardware so it's fixable, but until someone get there head out there ass this is as good as it gets for the nexus 6 . I like the pictures this phone takes when on stock ROM but the videos look bad, camera keep refocusing every 10 sec its horrible.
 

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Five different camera apps to do everything that should be standard on camera apps in 2015 excuses excuses the app suck . Software does do wonders to hardware so it's fixable, but until someone get there head out there ass this is as good as it gets for the nexus 6 . I like the pictures this phone takes when on stock ROM but the videos look bad, camera keep refocusing every 10 sec its horrible.

Then go to apple. :)
 
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im happy with the google camera app. sure, it can see some improvements, but overall its alright for me. what i dont care about in other camera apps is all the "fluff". stuff thats added to the camera app that you dont need and is there just to give people that dont know how to use a camera more options. i have thousands of photos posted on my g+, all taken with different nexus phones, all with either the google cam app or the aosp camera app.
 

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Its sad though...there are so many things to love about the nexus 6..I've used the open camera app with it and I seen some of the potential it does have to take beautiful pics and vids... I wish that google could have at least ported over the Moto X camera app so that it had its own special detail...but alas ...it's a google device....I hope in the near future... This is corrected...it may be just a phone camera...but can't we agree that we deserve atleast a camera app with special and dedicated functions...faster HDR+,some sort of low light assist,60-120fps and more advanced features :)
 
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Peylix

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L Camera.

Adds SOME of the features wanted. Still lacks others but is steps above the stock app. It also gets rid of the auto focus of death in vids. FV5 is another great app that allows fine tuning. Really the only thing that is missing is slow motion. Auto HDR sucks. Learn some composition instead of relying on software to do it for you.

Also, OP said in orig comment that HDR takes too long. I wonder if having to bracket 3-5 different exposure shots and merging them for you to edit later might have to do with it? Have you actually done DSLR HDR? It's not a millisecond feature. It's multiple photos in one for gods sake.

TL;DR there are many great alternatives to stock. Not all the cool features are there (yet) but knocks the list down to a few.
Also, if you want some fancy DSLR competitive phone camera. Get a DSLR or a phone built for such. The Nexus line has never been about that nor will it ever be. It's a reference device for hardware and software. Nothing more.

If it bothers you that much. Then get a different device or make your own app that has all the features. Whining and fighting on an internet forum will not fix the issue.

Above all else. Everyone in this thread, chill the hell out and have a beer. Jesus.
Cheers :cool:
 

johnciaccio

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Just thought I would chime in here about the camera app from Google. I am waiting on my N6 from verizon so I will have more experience later.

I Have had several Samsung Devices (S3, Note 3) and now on the LG G3. After going to a AOSP based ROM from the stock I noticed a big difference. The stock camera apps on both the Samsung and LG devices were way better in almost all aspects. Being stuck without them in AOSP roms killed the camera on the G3.

Hope Google gets on this. The Nexus 6 deserves a better app. It is their most expensive phone yet. I have used the L camera app and it does have potential. Maybe asking the developer can help get things going in the right direction.
 

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I have not gone to 5.1 yet but here is L cam on it's newest dev release. Like I said, the N6 is not the best out there. However if you have the right app, settings, composition, you can get some pretty nice shots.
 

krysdafur

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Just got a Nexus 6 on 5.1 and manual exposure(exposure compensation) is not showing up on the Google camera app and exposure compensation is not working in my other camera apps. Manual Camera and Camera FV-5.

Anyone else having the same issue?
 
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My biggest gripe about the camera is every now and then it does this. Makes me feel I can't trust it because it's going to eat my phone alive hahaha. I use my rx100 most of the time anyway which makes this issue more annoying because I barely use my phone's camera. Oh well.

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    its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows

    The nexus 6 is a phone with a camera. Besides even in your post u stated u cant download another app. Right there proves u wrong.

    Lol ok, you need to take the fanboy hat off. Firstly i've had every Nexus phone since the Nexus S , love them, but the camera app is just poor and lacking features.

    Oh and go back and read my post again, i said ... not if you want 60fps or 120fps slow motion. ( which btw the OnePlus One can do with the same sensor!) .. get off your high horse

    "its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows"
    This is beyond stupid, how many Android phones out there have MUCH better camera apps than Nexus branded devices ???? ?nearly all of them

    The fanboy in you is shocking.
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    Why is it so hard for google to fix the camera app and the camera quality issues that plague android? I was expecting them to fix it with the 5.1 update , but no luck, if you ask apple fans why they think the iphone is superior , the only thing they have going for them is camera quality. All I'm asking is that they reduce the time it takes to take a HDR+ picture , because without HDR+ the nexus 6 camera is kinda meh, implement an auto HDR+ mode, let us actually use burst mode, timelapse, that's pretty much it.... I don't want to install 3 different camera apps to get features that should be stock ...

    Totally agree, nexus 6 is finally a google phone with a good sensor and lens, and they ruin it with a camera app stuck in 2012.
    Things missing:

    - 60 fps video
    - auto HDR
    - HDR Video
    - burst mode
    - slow motion
    - manual settings for ISO and shutter speed
    - touch focus & manual focus during videos
    - stutter free zoom
    - stereo sound recording
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    camera issues - all fixable with software

    Under certain, very narrow circumstances the stock camera and app take a decent still picture.

    HDR+ is requisite. Strong but indirect light is also necessary or issues will crop up.

    I would rate it (MY OPINION) to be B+ to A- if those two conditions are met. In other words, pretty damn good.

    Else it fails miserably as an easy to use camera - expected on a phone. No illusions about it being a pro device. Point and shoot.

    I reject the simplistic strawman argument "it's not the camera it's the photographer". This is truly the voice of a lay photographer and a condescending one as well. A proper automatic camera should produce good to very good images most of the time, not just when conditions are ideal.

    The video camera is a complete disaster.

    Exposure compensation is primitive. Signal to noise is borderline bad.

    The test to demonstrate the almost complete absence of CLEAN exposure compensation is easily replicated:

    Place someone in front of a single color wall (or a sky) with the source of light behind you. You know, like you were doing a simple video shoot.. Slowly pan up and down and observe the camera adjust exposure , this is referred to as stair-stepping, and blinks as it adjusts.

    A video camera makes these transitions smoothly in all but the most extreme circumstances. The iPhone, for example, is like butter with these transitions of bright/contrast. The human eye is also smooth. The N6 is abrupt, choppy and - for video - useless.

    The third party video apps allow you to "lock exposure" which is fine for an interview or an otherwise fixed exposure setting. But no one shoots video like that because as soon as ANY movement happens, the scene is over or under-exposed.

    What frustrates me is these issues are not rooted with the hardware. They are the video codec and processing. The APIs allow for access to raw .DNG files for stills (which is cool) but the developers have no access to the core processing math for the video. The APIs are hooks to features, not the chewy center.

    As noted by others, if Google gave two hoots about this they could fix it.

    My $0.02. And, in case you ask, I shoot professional video all the time. I harbor no illusions about what this N6 should be capable of delivering. I also am fine if you think it works to your satisfaction. But do not represent yourself as an expert because you shot indoor photos and used them in a publication because that is a specious argument about the overall quality of the device as a camera.
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    Google will seemingly never fix the camera, since the Nexus S its been bad.

    To think that they have worked with Samsung / LG / Motorola and HTC ! They never have mentioned anything about a serious camera software update, all those companies have way way better camera software ! With all their money and research they still can't make a half decent camera app. . . . . . its utterly ridiculous ! They can send internet across 3rd world countries / build a self driving car / build a modular smartphone but camera app is totally out their reach !

    I'll eat my own nipple hair if the camera app is deemed up to scratch with other OEM's buy then end of 2015 !
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    Far from a fan boy. Just getting ridiculous with people complaining about a non issue. How is the camera lacking features when it was provided just recently? the google camera is new back in april 2014. So no sure what u mean by poor and lacking features. If thats the case then the google now launcher and is poor and lacking features. Do some research fanboy

    Lol you're making yourself look ridiculous.

    So apparently because it was given to us in April 2014 means its perfect? LOL
    HTC, Samsung , Sony, OnePlus ( Oneplus btw has the same damn sensor so its 100% capable ) ... All of their Android devices offer :

    60-fps
    Slow motion
    HDR in video
    better autofocus while recording video


    The list is actually pretty long from whats lacking on the Nexus camera app, sorry but if you can't see that , you're straight up blind, either physically or mentally