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Senior Member
Jan 26, 2012
According to a german news Mango phones won't get updated to Windows Phone 8 but will get a feature update with some features of Apollo. Like 7.6 or 7.7. That's because to the new Kernel Apollo uses.

Those informations come from a source in Nokia/MS.

(in german) Source

Nope not believing it one bit, i want it to be said directly out their mouths 100% confirmed by Microsoft!


Senior Member
Feb 26, 2004
It's official, coming from Microsoft themselves...

NO update to Windows Phone 8.

All first and second generation phones will be 'stuck' with a revamped Windows Phone 7.8, that will look like 8, bot will not get the fancy stuff.

It's a sad day for Nokia (and all other OEM), as they might see their sales dwindle...

Hopefully, new phones will come quickly...


Senior Member
Nov 19, 2010
They are basically closing the "New Apps" section from Marketplace for us, since I believe 99.9% of them will be for the new kernel with native code / DirectX.

And they speak badly of Android.


Senior Member
Jan 29, 2009
Help me, please! :(

I want restore/Install booloader to DLOAD/Qcom but:

NSS not find my phone. :(

That's off topic, go to the Nokia Lumia 800 section! :rolleyes:

As for the future updates; as a Omnia7 owner = I'm happy with 7.8. As my friends have Lumia's... I can feel slightly bad for them but in all honesty I don't think it's worth getting upset over no WP8, 7.8 is close enough! It's obviously a lot to do with kernels, processors and programming.


Nov 21, 2009
I can feel slightly bad for them but in all honesty I don't think it's worth getting upset over no WP8, 7.8 is close enough! It's obviously a lot to do with kernels, processors and programming.

Like I've said before I'm mad because they knew about this 3 months ago when the 900 was launched. All they had to do was say that there would be no WP8 for that phone. I just feel like they withheld it on purpose for obvious reasons.


Jan 11, 2005
They are basically closing the "New Apps" section from Marketplace for us, since I believe 99.9% of them will be for the new kernel with native code / DirectX.

And they speak badly of Android.

And we should expect them closing WP8 market about end of 2014 because new NONCOMPATIBILE WP9. Just to be clear - you are buying telephone for 2 years, then you have to bin it an buy new one - simple. (unless you have HTC HD2)


Senior Member
Aug 9, 2010
I purchased an HTC Titan last December. While I'm not entirely in the same bought as Lumia owners, (despite having the phone less than a year and realizing it's being cut off from WP8), I'm not entirely distressed from not getting the update. WP7.8 is fine enough for me in the meantime, while I can wait and see if WP8 will have any launch bugs and issues that'll make me regret adopting early. If everything seems ship-shape, then I'll make the switch.

No big deal, in my opinion.


Senior Member
Jul 22, 2007
I heard that none of the current Windows Phones will be eligible to receive any future updates...

then you heard wrong, there will be updates, you just wont get any WP8 hardware / kernal dependant updates.

up to a point this will stay true, i would "assume" based on absolutely no fact what so ever, that from release of WP8 MS will provide support for 7.x for a further 18 months, which would tidy over most users until the end of their current contracts.

remember folks, you own a phone that you selected and paid out for, bar bug fixes there really isnt and required level of support from MS at all.
it will be outdated sooner or later, but it wont suddenly stop working.

As for app developers, until WP7 market is small enough not to bother with they would be foolish to ignore it. If they can develop an app that is supported on Tango hardware then they would get a much bigger user base and thus potential sales then if they targeted it at WP8 only. MS has already said that porting to WP8 is already~80% done so its not like its a massive undertaking!

the other small thing is that as with all 1st gen devices, there will be much better ones around the corner so we'd do well to not move to WP8 for the sake of it just now anyway ;)


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Mar 15, 2010
Santa Cruz, CA
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    The purpose of this list is to fully educate current and prospective owners about any features that are missing and will be added in a future update as confirmed by an official source. Hopefully this will avoid frustration and uncertainty since knowing is half the battle.

    Missing Features

    Copy & Paste (addressed in Update 2)
    Custom ringtones (addressed in Update 4)
    Turn-by-turn Navigation (addressed in Update 4)
    Multitasking (addressed in Update 4)
    Adobe Flash (doubtful)
    HTML5 (addressed in Update 4)
    Video Calling (addressed in Update 4)
    VoIP Calling
    Smart Dialer
    Mass Storage Mode
    Bluetooth Transfer
    Universal Search (to be addressed in Tango Build)
    System Wide File Manager
    On-device Encryption

    Official Microsoft Request Forums

    User Feature Requests
    Developer Requests
    Bugs & Features

    Update History

    Update 7.0.7008.0(February 21st 2011)
    • Improvements to the way software updates will be delivered to ensure that the process keeps working smoothly.

    Update 7.0.7390.0 - NoDo (March 22nd 2011)
    • Copy & Paste
    • Faster Apps & Games
    • Improved Marketplace
    • WiFi Improvements
    • Microsoft Outlook improvements
    • Messaging Improvements
    • Facebook Intergration
    • Camera Improvements
    • Audio Improvements
    • Other Performance Improvements

    Update 7.0.7392.0 - Bug Fix (May 2011)
    • Fix for Fraudulent third-party digital certificates

    Update 7.10.7720.68 - Windows Phone 7.5 (Fall 2011)
    • Custom ringtones
    • Visual voicemail
    • New speech commands
    • Email & messaging - threads, conversationale view, linked inboxes
    • People & social networking - groups, increased sharing, integrated Twitter and LinkIn, improved Me Card, history view
    • Multitasking
    • App Connect
    • Improved Live Tiles
    • Improved Marketplace
    • Calendar
    • Improved browser search
    • Local Scout
    • Mall maps
    • Driving directions
    • Camera improvements - picture sharing & tagging, persistent camera settings, redesigned Picture Hub
    • Music & videos - playlists, smart DJ, Podcasts
    • Skydrive
    • Improved Office Hub
    • Onenote to do list
    • Improved Excel
    • Redesigned Game Hub
    • Networking - Wi-Fi hotspot, connect to hidden networks
    • Manage phone from web

    Update 7.10.8107.79 - Bug Fixes (Jan 2012)
    • On-screen keyboard - Fixes an issue to prevent the keyboard from disappearing during typing.
    • Email - Fixes a Google mail syncing issue.
    • Location - Fixes a location access issue. With this fix, the Me feature in the People Hub sends anonymous information about nearby Wi-Fi access points and cell towers to Microsoft only if you agree to allow the Check In function to access and use location information.
    • Security - Revokes digital certificates from DigiCert Sdn Bhd to address an encryption issue.
    • Email threads - Fixes an email issue related to Microsoft Exchange Server 2003. With this fix, when you reply to or forward a message, the original message is now included in your response.
    • Voicemail - Fixes a voicemail notification display issue that occurs on some European and Asian networks under certain conditions.
    DOS hasn't been "built in" to home versions of Windows since Windows XP. Windows ME was built on DOS, but prevented direct access to it in the way previous versions allowed. Enterprise versions of Windows have been based on the NT kernel since the mid-90s.

    A large amount of older software is very difficult to use on newer versions of Windows. Windows XP is as old as Windows 95 was in 2005, so it doesn't count as "modern" by any stretch - unless, of course, someone was running Windows 95 on an Athlon 64 X2 in 2005. Windows Vista and Windows 7 have severe compatibility issues with programs written for versions of Windows prior to Windows 2000, and occasionally run into issues with those designed for 2000/XP.

    Windows Mobile was dropped because it was considered a failure. It was, to a large degree, an attempt to place a desktop OS on a phone. It simply didn't work well.

    Windows Phone 7, though still based on Windows CE, is a completely different platform that makes use of different APIs. Windows Phone 7's relation to Windows Mobile is no closer than Windows 7's relationship to Windows NT 4.0.

    Your assertion that "Windows Phone is a fail because people said so" is also flawed. Everyone may have an opinion, but there is certainly a such thing as an invalid opinion. I, for example, am a mathematician. I am not a very creative individual. I see things very logically and algorithmically. I am also colorblind and have absolutely no education, interest, or background in fine art. I can assert that a piece of art is "a fail," but in the end, my opinion is meaningless because my opinion is uninformed and invalid.

    The average salesperson has absolutely no idea that there's a difference between Windows Phone and Windows Mobile, not to mention people pushing technology generally have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Around 2004, going to Best Buy would result in having an Intel Pentium 4-based PC pushed on you, completely ignoring the fact that AMD's offerings at that time were superior in every way.
    Hi there!

    Inspired by this topic, i've made a new one on the Portuguese forum Zwame with lots of improvements, including more info about the updates, more included future updates and homebrew alternatives to missing features.

    The website is in Portuguese, but you can use Google or Bing translator do check it out!

    Here is the link:

    Google Translator (PT to EN):

    Bing Translator (PT to EN):

    And don't forget to thank me! :D

    Camaradas Portuguese passem pelo fórum da Zwame onde coloquei um novo tópico sobre as actualizações do Windows Phone, inspirado neste, mas com uma data de novidades e até alternativas à falta de funcionalidades (homebrew).

    Eis a ligação:

    E não se esqueçam de agradecer! :D
    This is only partially fixed.
    Seriously I can only paste once, then it clears the clipboard

    That is not fixed, not fixed at all

    /edit spelling fail

    It doesn't clear the clipboard. Where you see the paste icon slide off to the left, you can slide to the right and bring it back and paste as many times as you want.
    I haven't get update yet. But I afraid that Chervon Tool will be deactivated, too.
    Need more news from ppl who has updated and using Chervon tool...

    I took my risk to update it.

    Everything goes smoooth... and the Chervon unlock is still there! Walah.... :D