of course you can.
of course you can.
Thanks. Ok first thing in noticed that i have Fire OS 220.127.116.11. so no solution to OTA update problem right now ?
Did you buy the HD 10 from Amazon? Were you able to assure that it was OS 18.104.22.168 before purchase? If so, how did you do that?Hello all!
I just got a Fire HD 10 with following Build Date: 29 MAY 2021 Fire OS 22.214.171.124
First thing I did, is to download Toolbox v30 and get rid of the Ads, and install google play store. Then some of the Amazon Apps did not work anymore,device not supported. Thx to Blaacksheep I could resolve.
Following question, getting rid of the Apps in the version I am in, did it automatically block the OTA Updates?
I did read that some devices have problems with the launcher, what launcher works best with my 126.96.36.199 version?
Should I Update from this version?
any recommendations ?
First off all thank you for the guide and the support.I was about to release a guide on disabling OTA updates by blocking the servers with RethinkDNS when @Datastream33 released v30 of Toolbox with a new data-restricting method of blocking them. I waited a little bit to see the reaction to it and it seems that it blocks some other things too.
Without further ado, here's a preliminary guide to setting up RethinkDNS and Activity Launcher to block any DNS lookups for Amazon's update servers.
Alright, I've been testing this app for over a month and I haven't gotten any surprise "updates" just waiting for a reboot to install themselves! I haven't been turning off WiFi before rebooting, or taken any precautions to prevent updates other than just this app with the settings given here. I've only checked if there was an update waiting to install before turning my tablet off so I could delete it if I found one. My tablet has stayed on v188.8.131.52, while the most current release is 184.108.40.206. Using DNS66, I got surprised by the update from 220.127.116.11. I started watching for updates and had to delete them several times before I started using RethinkDNS. Using RethinkDNS has worked flawlessly in disabling OTA updates . The only caveate is that you can't run a "real" VPN along with RethinkDNS because it uses the VPN interface of your tablet in order to work. If you must run a VPN, you'll have to put my blocklist into your router's firewall rules so that the VPN interface of your tablet is free to run a VPN.
Turn off your tablet's WiFi and disable DNS66 or any other VPN you are running.
Get RethinkDNS from the source and sideload it to your tablet. The current version is v053k. Get Activity Launcher from UpToDown.com and sideload that to your tablet.
Install RethinkDNS. Install Activity Launcher. (You can combine steps and just stream install them from your computer if you'd like.)
Launch RethinkDNS. Tap "Apps" in the upper-left. A box will pop up saying "Start DNS and Firewall (default)". Tap "START". Another box will pop up saying "Attention!.....". Tap "Proceed". Another box will pop up saying "Connection request". Tap "OK". The app will start. Now you just need to configure it.
Tap "Apps" in the upper-left once again. Now a list of installed apps will populate the screen. There are 4 apps you want to block to prevent OTA Updates. Scroll down the list and find each of these apps and tap the blue WiFi and the blue Mobile Data icon next to each of them so they toggle to red.
- DeviceSoftwareOTA - when you block this a box will pop up saying it will also block 3 other apps. Tap "Proceed". It will repeat that warning when you block both the WiFi and Mobile Network options. When you are done, both should change from blue to red and it should say "blocked" under DeviceSoftwareOTA.
- Forced OTA - Block both WiFi and Mobile Data on this. No popup boxes this time, the inicators just change from blue to red.
- System Updates (1) - This should already be blocked from the first app. If not, repeat the proceedure and block both WiFi and Mobile Data
- System Updates (2) - Again, this should be blocked from the first app and if not repeat the blocking proceedure.
Now to check if you are configured properly, look at the top and tap the "Blocked" heading. Your dispay should now list just those 4 apps and the indicators on the right should all be red. Tap to toggle any that are still blue.
Now we need to use Activity Launcher to get to the hidden VPN settings of your tablet. Launch Activity Launcher. Let it load (it takes several seconds) and use the search glass in the upper-right. Type in "VPN" (without the quotes). At the bottom of the list under settings you'll see VPN. Tap it. Now find RethinkDNS on the list of installed VPN's and tap the gear at the right. Tap "Always-on VPN" to toggle it on. Tap "Block connections without VPN" to toggle that on. You'll get a warning screen, but acknowledge that and turn it on.
Edit: This can now also be done in Toolbox by going into Modify System Settings > Networking tab > VPN Settings if you don't want to install Activity Launcher, but Activity Launcher allows you access to other settings that Amazon hides.
Turn on your WiFi now.
Congratulations! You're all done. You should be safe from further updates.
There are other DNS changes that RethinkDNS can make. If you require them relaunch RethinkDNS and tap the DNS tab in upper-right to change DNS settings.
Your DNS lookups by default will use DoH (DNS over HTTPS). This makes it almost impossible for your DNS lookups to be redirected to a different site than what you typed into your browser. It also makes your DNS lookups unreadable by your ISP so they can't track what you do by your unencrypted DNS lookups (which happen even though your traffic may be encrypted). RethinkDNS also offers Dnscrypt, which is another method of doing the same thing. I believe DoH (the default) is most compatable and left that alone.
You can also use "filtered" DNS lookups to block offensive sites, block piracy sites, block adult sites, etc.
You can also use Cloudflare DNS, Google DNS, CleanBrowsing DNS, Quad9 DNS, or a custom DNS. If you know what you want, you can change your DNS settings here.
If you want to use additional blocklists in your DNS lookups, tap "On-device blocklists". Tap "Disabled" to enable this feature. Let it download the available blocklists. Tap "Configure". Under the "SIMPLE" tab, tap the filters you wish to use. Tap "APPLY".
You can change any other defaults if you wish. This includes all the settings in the settings menu. I left all these setting alone. I would recommend testing your internet after each change you make. If your internet stops working, go back to the defaults until you've determined that you really want to change that setting. Otherwise all the defaults will work fine for the purpose of blocking updates.
If needed, I'll post screenshots of the setup procedure.
NOTE: A reboot may be required after this procedure before you once again get internet access. (Thanks @smirnoff9969 )
First off all thank you for the guide and the support.
My Fire HD 10 KIDS is unfortunately on 18.104.22.168 because I did not pay attention in the beginning to it. So I have to deal with it. The tablet is planned to be used basically by my daughter in the Kids profile.
Nevertheless I wanted to do some mods with V30.0 in the parent profil like youtube and so on. All thinks working fine. In the end my plan was to freeze the settings with your guide. On one hand to prevent the system from further updates and on the other hand that some hidded / disabled apps still appear back on screen after a few days which i attribute to the automatic background updates.
But now I have the problem that every day my daughter switches on the tablet it says "ups, something went wrong". The tablet has to be restarted to get it normal working.
Might this be a problem due the blocking acc. to your guide? Did someone discovered something similar? Unfortunately I can only in a week again look for it because I am on business trip. First workaround for the girl is to shutdown it after using and fire it up on the next day.
Ok, thank you for your reply.I have no experience with the Kids versions of the Fire tablets. I don't know what is causing that message. Also, I didn't do any investigation into whether or not RethinkDNS works on separate profiles (e.g. child and parent). It may require further setup to achieve blocking updates on both profiles. I may have to create a child profile on my regular HD 8 (2020) tablet to find out, but I'm going to assume it will be different on a "Kids" version tablet.
personally speaking, I returned a 10+ that had 22.214.171.124 and got a replacement with 126.96.36.199, and much happierThanks for the quick reply. In fact, after checking firmware version on 2nd Fire Tablet 10 is has 188.8.131.52. So far with 184.108.40.206, I was able to installed google services, removed amazon ads(Lockscreen management), and have Standard debloat applied (Manage Amazon apps). The only task remain to do is remove fire tv launcher and have it replaced by Nova Launcher.
Thanks for everyone's help -- got everything installed (and seems like I got lucky and have a 220.127.116.11 version).
Dopey question -- just want to check -- there is no issues with registering my device with Amazon now that I've disabled OTA updates? Didn't see anything in the instructions on the front page saying I shouldn't register, but don't want to accidentally trigger an update either
My Fire HD 10 (11th Gen) runs Fire OS 18.104.22.168.
I'd hacked it with Fire Toolbox and installed Google services.
All apps run correctly but I''ve lost Nova as default launcher after an OTP update.
I've tried to block OTA with DNS66 method but I didn't test it (because I prefered to wait a new Fire Toolbox release before to connect back it on Internet).
I would like to stop OTAs, to disable some Amazon apps, to be able to install all my apps and to replace the launcher by Nova.
Do you recommand to me to execute the brand-new method from v30.x including the factory reset of my Fire HD 10?
Do I have to use Fire Toolbox v30.0 or v30.1 ?
Thanks a lot for your help and advices
Not the best option, especially when u have to install google on several tablets in limited timeThe problem is being caused by the unusually large number of people using Toolbox and the temporary online storage site for the apps being Google Drive. Google only allows a certain amount of bandwidth per day to a Drive account and when that's been exceeded, it will fail. Your best bet is to try it again tomorrow, much earlier in the day before the allotment gets used up.
I doubt that any of this is caused by any of the standard toolbox features/changes.
I took the risk, enabled the Amazon App store and updated the Netflix app before disabling the Amazon App again. That indeed did the trick - now it's working.
I did try that with Dolphin Browser using a current Win10 with Chrome Browser user agent but while the autoplay trailers worked I couldn't play the episode of the show I wanted to watch due to missind DRM capabilities of the browser. At least that's how I uderstood the error message I had gotten.
Actually www.netflix.com is the only way to surf to Netflix from Germany as well. There is no specific German Netflix domain. So no, there's no re-redirect.[...]
Next, Netflix Germany has it's own more limited media catalogue and service, ostensible for licensing reasons. German IP address are geo-blocked from accessing US Netflix servers. That's the source of the 403 network connect error message. Chrome browser can easily connect to www.netflix.com, just not from Germany. Is there a re-direct to Netflix Germany servers? Possbile workaround is to use a VPN to "spoof" a US IP address.
Next, will your subscription work on Netflix Germany?
I can see how reluctant you are to make any changes to your FTB setup; understandable to protect your tablet from Amazon, at any cost.
However, once your FTB setup is adequately protected from OTA Updates, you are not precluded from using your Amazon account and downloading apps from the Amazon AppsStore. That's the general approach for getting Google incompatible apps to run on FTB modded Fire tablets. But you have to be vigilant that OTA Updates won't occur.
Edit: alternative version of Netflix app may be available for "non-compliant" devices :
If the Netflix app for Android tells you that...help.netflix.com
** Edit 2: Nerflix Basic with Ads plan available in Germany but maybe not on Fire tablets. See "NOTE" and "Why Basic with ads plan is not available" in description of Plan:
If you've been away from the FTB community for a while you've missed a lot of excitement/angst/despair.I have Fire 8 (10th gen, 2020), and used (I think) v26 or so for the tool. I have system updates disabled so I can't see what version Fire OS I'm on but I haven't updated in more than a year at least.
So is it worth updating to newer Fire OS for the tablet? Any significant updates? Does v30 of the tool do anything more/less that it would be worth running it and updating, or even starting again? I only use this Fire for basic use, media use.
I still find the Fire tablets slow, this one was cheap it was worth it, is the 2022 version any faster in general use? Hate the pause and sluggish behaviour of it
I can see that. Is there no 3rd-party website keeping any of the desired Fire OS versions available? Would Amazon shut that down?Godd tactical plan ... you need/want FireOS 22.214.171.124 but ONLY f/w 126.96.36.199.
Keep a copy of the the f/w download for "safekeeping" , if you ever need to do a future device factory reset ... Amazon support only makes the current update available and doesn't archive previous versions.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING FIREOS 188.8.131.52+ AND THE TOOLBOX (PLEASE READ)
If your tablet is running FireOS 184.108.40.206 or above please note that some functions of the Toolbox may not work due to new restrictions in the new firmware. The following tools either do not work or have limited functionality:
• OTA Updates - OTAs can no longer be disabled.
• Manage Amazon Apps - Some system apps can no longer be disabled.
We're looking into workarounds to the issues detailed above. Please keep an eye on the forum for further development.
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How can I run the Toolbox on Linux?The Toolbox is currently being developed for Linux systems in the Python programming language. If you'd like to see the progress of the port, you can do so at this link.Please be patient with me as the Linux port is being developed in my spare time and may take some time to complete. However, as the port progresses some builds will be released to those who'd like to help test alpha builds. More information on this later down the line. However, at the moment, the best way to run the Toolbox on Linux is to use VMWare and emulate Windows.
My Home Button isn't working after using the Custom Launcher Tool?Due to the way the process works, it alters your navigation bar's home key to send a key event that can be picked up by Automate. Once Automate reads this event, it launches your custom launcher automatically. However, if the flow in Automate isn't running, the navbar key will not work, and nothing will happen when it's tapped. To fix this, either open Automate and start the "Launcher Invoker" flow again, or execute the Custom Launcher tool in the Toolbox, click the ":" icon (upper-right) to show the Tool Options panel, and click the "Restore Navigation Bar" button to restore the stock layout.
Google Family Link won't work on my tablet?Unfortuently, no matter how hard we try, we still haven't been able to get Family Link to work correctly on the tablets. The Family Link app fails to install, and the Child account refuses to login. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get a Child account to work on the tablets.We believe this has to do with missing dependecies, and the tablets not being certified through Google's Play Protect platform. We're still activly looking into getting the issue resolved. Until then, it's recommended that you use an alternative such as Amazon's FreeTime, Eyezy, or another third-party family managing software.
How can I remove a Google Account from my tablet?Because of the missing accounts section in the Settings app it will be a little more difficult to remove Google Accounts directly from the tablet. The easiest way that I've found is to visit this page: https://myaccount.google.com/security, sign-in to your Google Account, scroll down to "Your Devices" and click the "Manage devices" button. From the list of devices find your tablet and in the upper right-corner click the 3-dot icon and from the list select "Sign out".
Can the Toolbox be used to root my tablet?Primarly, rooting a Fire Tablet requires the user to open the back of the device and short out a certain point on the motherboard. The Toolbox has been designed for folks who'd rather not bark down this alley. It uses the power of ADB to make changes, and is meant to be an alternative to rooting. In summery, the Toolbox isn't designed to root.
The Toolbox is being marked as a virus?This is likely because the Toolbox (and it's installer) aren't signed with a software license. This freaks Windows out because it sees that there is no publisher, and as a result it displays a warning (smartscreen). In addition, some anti-viruses might also flag the Toolbox as a virus simply because the build is relatively new and there is no record of it in the anti-viruses database, resulting in a false positve.As always, I take your security and privacy VERY seriously! If you do not feel safe with installing the Toolbox due to virus concerns, I respect and support your decision. It is always up to the user and their judgment!
Version 26.0 - Changelog
- Updated the user interface.
- Added better installation detection to the Installation Management subtool.
- You can now specify what directory the Installation Management subtool will scan to detect installations.
- Improved the look of the Theme Selector.
- Fixed a bug causing the Startup Tour to not load tools correctly.
- Fixed chipset information not displaying for some tablets due to a renamed string in getprop.
- Moved the Theme Selector to the Welcome Screen.
[Modify System Settings]
- Improved the UI.
- Made significant improvements to the code, and fixed various bugs/issues.
- Added Re-route Homekey option for tablets running FireOS 220.127.116.11+.
- Added the ability to change the "Display Timeout" to the General tab.
- You can now set a custom Display Timeout of up to 24 hours.
- Improved the warning regarding the Pattern security type.
[Manage Amazon Apps]
- Updated Disney+, and Netflix to the latest versions.
- When restoring from a debloat list, it now displays the proper header and message.