Yes, I suspected something like that. Thanks for confirming
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a try later today. What a damn mess Amazon has made of this tablet with their modifications - I get why, but having spent some decent money on their 10" tablets for my kids, now they can't even log into them with their Google accounts, pretty sad state of affairs.
The only alternative is to buy a normal Android tablet without the fire nonsense. I got mine on black Friday at literally half price so it was worth it for me and the hassle of modding it with toolbox.Awesome, thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a try later today. What a damn mess Amazon has made of this tablet with their modifications - I get why, but having spent some decent money on their 10" tablets for my kids, now they can't even log into them with their Google accounts, pretty sad state of affairs.
Which tablet did you buy and who was the seller? Thanks
Bump. Could anyone please help?Thanks for the app!
Have used it today to customize and debloat 3 of my Fire HDs.
1 request/issue though.
After installing Nova Launcher from your app > Custom Navibar Key + Automate invoker settings..
- The Home button on the tab screen works fine.
-- However, I also have the Amazon bluetooth keyboard setup, which has a home key shortcut.
When I press the custom home key from the tab touch screen, it works fine and lands me to the Nova home screen.
However I guess the Home Screen button from the bluetooth keyboard is not linked with the Nova home screen on the invoker code/flow as pressing the home key on the bluetooth keyboard lands me to the Fire Launcher homescreen.
Can you please help by adding this function too? Or let me know if I can do it somehow?
Sounds like the Toolbox is having a hard time starting ADB. You could try starting ADB manually and see if that fixes it. Try this:
Is the home button a dedicated button on the keyboard or do you need to press a modifier key like "fn" and then another key to send a home button press?
Dang, those are some great questions, my friend! I'm going to try my best and answer them, hopefully to satisfaction.Although I may be brand new to the Amazon Fire HD, I've been to XDA before and have had experience installing LineageOS on both a Motorola android phone and a Samsung android tablet so I'm not a total novice.
I've been able to get some things done but do have questions about how to proceed further. Unfortunately, I didn't make any notes and am typing most of this from memory. MY apologies if this appears to be too lengthy.
Anyway, I've just bought an Amazon Fire HD 8 2022 tablet with ads without preregistering the tablet and have yet to register it.
I kept it offline but I did sideload F-Droid using a USB-C device that allowed me to mount a USB memory stick.
(HDMI doesn't work so far so I can't yet display on my 4K TV what's on the tablet screen. I don't know if the tablet is incapable of doing this or if I'll need to go into the tablet settings to enable this feature somewhere.)
The FireOS Version was and still is 126.96.36.199
(I now cannot bring up the version number on the tablet and need to use FTB to find out.)
Using F-Droid, I've installed some open-source apps but not before I connected the Fire HD 8 to a Windows 10 PC running Fire Toolbox v30.1 and successfully killed the lockscreen advertising and over-the-air updating. I did not go online until after doing this and only then did I use F-Droid to download apps. I've yet to install Google Play.
(I now have several web browsers, an offline map and some app launchers but not one that can be the tablet's default. Go to https://f-droid.org/ if you want to learn more about that.)
Linux is my preferred OS but I installed Fire Toolbox V30.1 on a Windows 10 PC that I've pulled out of mothballs. This PC has been kept offline preventing my use of all of the FTB features.
Being completely offline, both tablet and PC running FTB, I was able disable advertising and OTA updating but I still have the stock Amazon app launcher and could not install Google Play services.
Here are a list of apps that I could disable and a second list of apps that I couldn't using Manage Amazon Apps within FTB:
Removed: Amazon Alexa, Amazon Kids, Amazon Music, Amazon Newsstand, Amazon Prime Video, Amazon Youtube, Audible, Device Dashboard, Device Setup, Goodreads, Help, IMBd TV, Mayday Sharing, Music, Prime Photos, Shop Amazon, Weather, WPS Office
Can't Remove: Washington Post, News, My Videos, Mopria Print Sevice, Kindle Store
Next up when I do have further free time is to connect the Fire HD 8 to the Windows 10 PC running Fire Toolbox while the PC is ONLINE to be able to use all of the FTB features.
First question: Should I now register the tablet? Is it now safe from advertising and OTA updates?
F-Droid makes available a some app launchers. Might I be able to use one of these as the default using Fire Toolbox and killing the stock Amazon app launcher?
While installing LineageOS on other phones and tablets, I've installed Open GApps with a minimized Google Play footprint by using either the micro or nano configuration. Can I use Open GApps to roll my own version of Google Play or must I use the version that's made available with Fire Toolbox?
(To the uninitiated, this comes as a zip file that must be loaded by a recovery app within recovery mode but not as an apk file that can be sideloaded using adb. As is known here, this can't be done on the Fire HD 8 2022 at this moment because the bootloader is locked. So I understand that there will be no replacement recovery or LineageOS for the near future if at all.)
Well said my friend. You are 100% correct (as always)!What I think isn't stressed enough is, Amazon's Fire tablets are NOT stock Android tablets. They are cheap locked down tablets with a proprietary modded Android OS that cannot be replaced with another ROM (or OS) except for some older tablets that have a working expoit to get around the locks. As such, they can be modified though ADB tools to disable many of the FireOS "features" and those can be replaced with more "vanilla" Android features. People think that "debloating" a Fire tablet means removing everything Amazon from it, but that leaves the tablet in an unusable state because many of those Amazon apps that people want to disable are needed to replace the functions that Amazon removed from the basic Android architecture.
Toolbox is a tool that can do much in the creation of a much more Android-like device, but some things cannot be done without root access. It doesn't look like root access is anywhere on the horizon for the latest round or so of Fire tablets. The latest root exploit that I'm aware of is for early HD10 (2019) tablets, but I haven't tried it on mine.
So, if you want a true Android tablet, then buy a true Android tablet. If you can live with the almost-Android tablet that Toolbox gets you (at a much cheaper price than a true Android tablet), then buy a Fire tablet on Prime Day and have at it!
Yeah, this is due to apps "consuming" the media keypress. Once they are consumed, they will not reach Automate.
Yeah, this is due to apps "consuming" the media keypress. Once they are consumed, they will not reach Automate.
Unfortunately, the media keys are the only software keypress events that Automate detects, so we're kind of limited. We could however, use the "Media stop/play" keyevent instead. This will allow the keypress to work inside fullscreen apps, but will also pause media playback. Pick your poison, I suppose...
Thank you soo much for your quick reply!Is the home button a dedicated button on the keyboard or do you need to press a modifier key like "fn" and then another key to send a home button press?
If so, I'm afraid Automate can't pick up those events, however, we could use another modifier like ctrl, shift, alt, etc. instead. For example, we could map ctrl + z to launch the custom launcher. Do you have a preference? I'd be more than happy to modify the Launcher Invoker flow and send it your way.
If you've been away from the FTB community for a while you've missed a lot of excitement/angst/despair.I have Fire 8 (10th gen, 2020), and used (I think) v26 or so for the tool. I have system updates disabled so I can't see what version Fire OS I'm on but I haven't updated in more than a year at least.
So is it worth updating to newer Fire OS for the tablet? Any significant updates? Does v30 of the tool do anything more/less that it would be worth running it and updating, or even starting again? I only use this Fire for basic use, media use.
I still find the Fire tablets slow, this one was cheap it was worth it, is the 2022 version any faster in general use? Hate the pause and sluggish behaviour of it
I can see that. Is there no 3rd-party website keeping any of the desired Fire OS versions available? Would Amazon shut that down?Godd tactical plan ... you need/want FireOS 188.8.131.52 but ONLY f/w 184.108.40.206.
Keep a copy of the the f/w download for "safekeeping" , if you ever need to do a future device factory reset ... Amazon support only makes the current update available and doesn't archive previous versions.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING FIREOS 220.127.116.11+ AND THE TOOLBOX (PLEASE READ)
If your tablet is running FireOS 18.104.22.168 or above please note that some functions of the Toolbox may not work due to new restrictions in the new firmware. The following tools either do not work or have limited functionality:
• OTA Updates - OTAs can no longer be disabled.
• Manage Amazon Apps - Some system apps can no longer be disabled.
We're looking into workarounds to the issues detailed above. Please keep an eye on the forum for further development.
|Amazon Fire 7 (2022)|
|Amazon Fire 10/10+ (2021)|
|Amazon Fire 8/8+ (2020)|
|Amazon Fire 10 (2019)|
|Amazon Fire 7 (2019)|
|Amazon Fire 8 (2018)|
|Amazon Fire 10 (2017)|
|Amazon Fire 8 (2017)|
|Amazon Fire 7 (2017)|
|Amazon Fire HD8 (2016)|
|Amazon Fire HD10 (2015)|
|Amazon Fire HD8 (2015)|
|Amazon Fire HD7 (2015)|
|Amazon Fire HD7 (2014)|
|Amazon Fire HD6 (2014)|
Custom Navigation Bar Icons
Navigation Bar Modifier
How can I run the Toolbox on Linux?The Toolbox is currently being developed for Linux systems in the Python programming language. If you'd like to see the progress of the port, you can do so at this link.Please be patient with me as the Linux port is being developed in my spare time and may take some time to complete. However, as the port progresses some builds will be released to those who'd like to help test alpha builds. More information on this later down the line. However, at the moment, the best way to run the Toolbox on Linux is to use VMWare and emulate Windows.
My Home Button isn't working after using the Custom Launcher Tool?Due to the way the process works, it alters your navigation bar's home key to send a key event that can be picked up by Automate. Once Automate reads this event, it launches your custom launcher automatically. However, if the flow in Automate isn't running, the navbar key will not work, and nothing will happen when it's tapped. To fix this, either open Automate and start the "Launcher Invoker" flow again, or execute the Custom Launcher tool in the Toolbox, click the ":" icon (upper-right) to show the Tool Options panel, and click the "Restore Navigation Bar" button to restore the stock layout.
Google Family Link won't work on my tablet?Unfortuently, no matter how hard we try, we still haven't been able to get Family Link to work correctly on the tablets. The Family Link app fails to install, and the Child account refuses to login. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get a Child account to work on the tablets.We believe this has to do with missing dependecies, and the tablets not being certified through Google's Play Protect platform. We're still activly looking into getting the issue resolved. Until then, it's recommended that you use an alternative such as Amazon's FreeTime, Eyezy, or another third-party family managing software.
How can I remove a Google Account from my tablet?Because of the missing accounts section in the Settings app it will be a little more difficult to remove Google Accounts directly from the tablet. The easiest way that I've found is to visit this page: https://myaccount.google.com/security, sign-in to your Google Account, scroll down to "Your Devices" and click the "Manage devices" button. From the list of devices find your tablet and in the upper right-corner click the 3-dot icon and from the list select "Sign out".
Can the Toolbox be used to root my tablet?Primarly, rooting a Fire Tablet requires the user to open the back of the device and short out a certain point on the motherboard. The Toolbox has been designed for folks who'd rather not bark down this alley. It uses the power of ADB to make changes, and is meant to be an alternative to rooting. In summery, the Toolbox isn't designed to root.
The Toolbox is being marked as a virus?This is likely because the Toolbox (and it's installer) aren't signed with a software license. This freaks Windows out because it sees that there is no publisher, and as a result it displays a warning (smartscreen). In addition, some anti-viruses might also flag the Toolbox as a virus simply because the build is relatively new and there is no record of it in the anti-viruses database, resulting in a false positve.As always, I take your security and privacy VERY seriously! If you do not feel safe with installing the Toolbox due to virus concerns, I respect and support your decision. It is always up to the user and their judgment!
Version 26.0 - Changelog
- Updated the user interface.
- Added better installation detection to the Installation Management subtool.
- You can now specify what directory the Installation Management subtool will scan to detect installations.
- Improved the look of the Theme Selector.
- Fixed a bug causing the Startup Tour to not load tools correctly.
- Fixed chipset information not displaying for some tablets due to a renamed string in getprop.
- Moved the Theme Selector to the Welcome Screen.
[Modify System Settings]
- Improved the UI.
- Made significant improvements to the code, and fixed various bugs/issues.
- Added Re-route Homekey option for tablets running FireOS 22.214.171.124+.
- Added the ability to change the "Display Timeout" to the General tab.
- You can now set a custom Display Timeout of up to 24 hours.
- Improved the warning regarding the Pattern security type.
[Manage Amazon Apps]
- Updated Disney+, and Netflix to the latest versions.
- When restoring from a debloat list, it now displays the proper header and message.