Winlink/Ownice C300 Android 4.4.4 head unit

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Flemischguy

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Dec 15, 2014
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Ownice brings a new radio to the market, the C300

http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car dvd player for universal 2 din OL-6666T_360.html


These are the most known specifications

1. OS: Android 4.4.4

2. CPU: AC8327 Quad core cortex-A7,1.0-1.2GHz (The IC is Specialy developed for Car DVD)

3. Fast Response: RAM 1G + ROM 16G

4. Resolution: 800*480/1024*600 TFT Capacitive Screen

5. Standard Features: Built-in WiFi + DVD + GPS Navi + FM/AM Radio + Bluetooth + Multimedia + USB/SD + AUX

6. Support: DAB+ OBDII + DVR +ipod +3G Dongle + TV(DVB-T2,DVB-T,MPEG4&ISDB-T) + Rear Camera + TMPS + MIRROR

7. Unique UI Design: Translucent Background gives a full-screen viewing

8. 3 sec quick boot

They seem to skip android 5.0, and going to android 6.0 this fall
 

CadillacMike

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i dont understand why the C200 had 2 gig of ram, and this new one looks like it has 1 gig. However I do like the looks of it, and the C200 gets pretty good reviews on XDA. So I emailed them about a C300 for my Jeep.
 

kwalsh24

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Has anyone ordered one? I'm curious on this unit as I require a cheap unit to go into my truck that will be used when required. So I don't need anything fancy but want something that will work.

I've been in contact with ownice and asked about where to get software updates and was told the unit wouldn't get any... Which is somewhat alarming. Perhaps its a language barrier with the person not understanding what I'm asking... Here's the quoted email.


--- my email to them ---

What's the warranty like if there were to have something go wrong with it (who would I contact)* how often is there firmware updates for the unit and where would I go to get the updates ?

--- response ---

Hi,Dear, All of these questions that you could ask me, *you could add my Skype and whatsapp for contact me any time.

If there are something wrong, I will give you solution or send the component for you replacement.*


Our c300 cannot upgrade the system.*


Thanks*

Best regards*






Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
 
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octadox

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quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:

best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.

some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.

couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.

summary:

if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.

on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.

as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.

if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
 
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octadox

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do you use streaming music, like google play music or spotify, any issues?

given data caps on mobile data, that's not something that i was terribly interested in, so i haven't had a chance to try it yet (i have 60gb of music hooked up to it via usb stick, which so far has proved to be plenty). as i understand it, most folks cache stuff on these units ahead of long drives, to avoid pulling data the whole way, but like i said, no experience with it myself.
 

octadox

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found another con: internal microphone is garbage (when used via bluetooth) -- it works fine for google voice (although without contact sync, it's not terribly useful), but when making calls, it is waaaaaaaay too low in volume, and changing the gain setting in the settings doesn't help (just distorts the voice).
 

octadox

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How's the radio ? Static or clear? Anyone try to root it yet?

radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).

haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.
 

Flemischguy

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radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).

haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.

you can try this app for your radio from [email protected] http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3496422&d=1444056063 it works flawless on the C200
 

octadox

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not sure that this app would work on the c300 -- different hardware in this unit from the c200 -- and not worth trying it (for me), since the stock radio works just fine (except the RDS info, which my old stereo didn't have, so I'm not really missing it).

now, if someone has a bluetooth rewrite that allows interaction between regular android apps and the bluetooth dialer -- i am all ears.
 

octadox

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update: tried an external mic to fix the bluetooth mic issue and no dice, bluetooth doesn't seem to even recognize that there is an external mic present. so, can't use the radio to answer phone calls, because people on the other end can't hear you.

so, to recap, the things that don't work:
1. bluetooth phone calls due to issues with microphone
2. google contacts sync
3. OBDII bluetooth connections

things that do work:
1. waze
2. reverse camera
3. radio
4. playing music off USB stick

so, until waze comes out on android auto, i will keep this in the car. as soon as waze comes out on android auto, i will replace this with a mainstream unit that has android auto (like a pioneer NEX series or the new JBL that is coming out soon).

was it worth the $200? Only because i know of no other way to get waze into the car. otherwise, no, not for a second. not due to the cost, but due to having to fight it all the time to work out its issues.
 

CZ68

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Hello, I buy the C300, but disappointed by this one.
Problem of vehicle integration, I had cut out of the back of the car stereo support (on the vehicle) because the connectors can not pass!
No compatibility (interaction) with Ford convers + !
The SWC (steering wheel control programming) unusable, not a program! only the steering wheel volume + - + and defilement - works!
Can not delete the widget directly to the screen.
GPS works roughly although not change the sound alerts when it works, impossible to put the card day!
impossible to adjust the operating time of touch cutting, the C300 runs about 1 minute without contact.
Really disappointed !!!
 
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Flemischguy

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bonjour, j'ai acheté le C300, mais déçu par celui ci.
Problème d’intégration au véhicule, j'ai du découper l’arrière du support autoradio (sur le véhicule) car les connectiques ne passées pas !
Pas de compatibilité (interaction) avec Ford convers+ !
Le SWC (programmation des commande au volant) inutilisable, impossible a programmer ! seul la commande au volant volume + - et le défilement + - fonctionne !
Impossible de supprimer les widget directement de l’écran.
Vraiment déçu !!![/QUO


Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
 
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elfje4life

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Problems

I Have brought a c300 ownice Radio it works almost flawless

I Have three problems:
1. Dap+ after a full reset is not clear anymore there are some gabbs in the Sound its like it is buffering or something...
2. Sometimes Random disconect of bleuthoot
3. Still Running on Android 4

Someone knows any solutions?
Greetings,
Mike
 

Adrianvk5

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Nov 17, 2016
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Thanks and icon deleting?

HI .

Im, new to this list and a owner of a Ownice C300 for my touareg.

I made my mind up on buying the Ownice after reading quite a few threds on this developers site. The only mystery was the specifications on the AM and FM receiver and how it performs in the real world. The Chinese specs are very vague.

I have been bench testing by Ownice for the past week and getting familiar with its operation.
The receiver on AM is quite good and I can receive stations easily up to 300km aways during the day. This was my biggest concern as I do long country drives. FM is good as well, not sure how its strong signal performance will do.

First thanks for your passwords you gave in the description below, like you said the screen was unusable if web browsing or mapping. :good:

My question is, may be a stupid one.

When you drag a icon or widget onto the home screen, how do you delete it? I cant find any mention of this in the C300 manual.


Is there a script that determines the frequency range of the AM FM receiver? Mine is set to Australia eg 9kHz steps. coverage is up to 1602kHz. I would like to get up to 1710kHz for the expanded band here down under.

The other feature that the OEM VW radio has and this C300 doesn't is being able to switch the radio on with the keys not in the ignition. The OEM radio times out after 1 hr.
I amuse the power on acc would be hardware?
Im toying in writing a bit of simple code on a external timer to enable me to have a press button on the dash to fire up the Acc line on the radio with 12volt for an hour so the key is not need like the original radio. Some isolation diodes would be need to isolate the voltage not to back feed into the car.



Regards Adrian.





quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:

best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.

some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.

couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.

summary:

if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.

on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.

as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.

if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
 

mrtnb

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Jan 5, 2013
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FYI, Ownice C300 firmware and SystemOnChip files exactly the same as AC83XX units. Only difference is MainUI.apk and you can just install that file from another device, it will work (TESTED).
And root guide is here, rooting password is same -in the sbin/forfan file- almost same.
 

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    bonjour, j'ai acheté le C300, mais déçu par celui ci.
    Problème d’intégration au véhicule, j'ai du découper l’arrière du support autoradio (sur le véhicule) car les connectiques ne passées pas !
    Pas de compatibilité (interaction) avec Ford convers+ !
    Le SWC (programmation des commande au volant) inutilisable, impossible a programmer ! seul la commande au volant volume + - et le défilement + - fonctionne !
    Impossible de supprimer les widget directement de l’écran.
    Vraiment déçu !!![/QUO


    Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
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