Wipe phone? How do I do it without loosing root?

putney1477

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Hi there, my phone has been acting wonky the past week or so. I'd like to just factory reset (under settings or safestrap) not sure which one is better.

I am rooted running stock with some apps frozen.

What's the best way to reset without loosing root and safestrap?

Thanks!!

do I have to unfreeze everything first?

I tried searching (as I know search is my friend ;) but I was getting contradictory information.

Thanks for your help!
 

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You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.
 

putney1477

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You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.
Thanks for getting back to me! So can I just reset? Or should unfreeze my apps first?

So it would just have the stock apps that come with the phone on it after a reset?

Thanks!

It's been so long since I've had to do this lol
 

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You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.
you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.

now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story

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you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.

now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story

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yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?

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yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?

Thanks guys!
worst that will happen u will have to odin a stock tar and reroot.. i would back up all your pictures n everything onto a ext sdcard or pc.. essentially, a fdr from settings or the stock android recovery will make it like new again if you havent flashed a custom rom but i never use it.. i would always just odin a stock tar or use ss fdr and flash a stock rooted rom.zip through ss

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worst that will happen u will have to odin a stock tar and reroot.. i would back up all your pictures n everything onto a ext sdcard or pc.. essentially, a fdr from settings or the stock android recovery will make it like new again if you havent flashed a custom rom but i never use it.. i would always just odin a stock tar or use ss fdr and flash a stock rooted rom.zip through ss

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Oh boy lol....

Ok so if I odin back to nha, take Ota to ni2, odin stock ncg kernel, root with towelroot, odin stich ni2, reboot. I should be fresh out of the box right?

Then I can download ss and install.

Holy crap that's a lot of steps.

Thanks!
Heather
 

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Oh boy lol....

Ok so if I odin back to nha, take Ota to ni2, odin stock ncg kernel, root with towelroot, odin stich ni2, reboot. I should be fresh out of the box right?

Then I can download ss and install.

Holy crap that's a lot of steps.

Thanks!
Heather
yup.. if u have to.. like i said, if ur already rooted with ss installed you might as well wipe in ss and just flash a stock rooted ni2 rom

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yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?

Thanks guys!
you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.

now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story

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Just to clear this up a factory data reset from the settings menu and safestrap do the same thing. It resets the settings, removes any user installed apps as it wipes data folder where your user installed apps are stored. It will be the same ROM you flashed minus any user apps, root and safestrap will remain. If you enter safestrap and do a advanced wipe with system checked and try to boot without flashing a ROM you will have to Odin back to stock to boot back up because the system will be gone. Lastly if you enter the stock recovery and reset from there it will do the same thing as SS and the settings menu. The only way to return to stock is Odin. Hope this clears up any confusion.
 
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Just to clear this up a factory data reset from the settings menu and safestrap do the same thing. It resets the settings, removes any user installed apps and wipes data. It will be the same ROM you flashed minus any user apps, root and safestrap will remain. If you enter safestrap and do a advanced wipe with system checked and try to boot without flashing a ROM you will have to Odin back to stock to boot back up because the system will be gone. Lastly if you enter the stock recovery and reset from there it will do the same thing as SS and the settings menu. The only way to return to stock is Odin. Hope this clears up any confusion.
what he said lol. i was just going off my past experience.. wiping via stock recovery caused me to have to odin back to stock.. it bootlooped and i didnt have ss recovery any longer.. ss default fdr has system wipe on as default so if you use tge default wipe you need to have another rom available to flash in ss or you will need to odin. Or of course do advanced wipe and unselect the wipe system portion.

theoretically, stock fdr should only wipe as misterxtc stated.. i suggest back up your stuff and try it and let us know how it goes lol

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what he said lol. i was just going off my past experience.. wiping via stock recovery caused me to have to odin back to stock.. it bootlooped and i didnt have ss recovery any longer.. ss default fdr has system wipe on as default so if you use tge default wipe you need to have another rom available to flash in ss or you will need to odin. Or of course do advanced wipe and unselect the wipe system portion.

theoretically, stock fdr should only wipe as misterxtc stated.. i suggest back up your stuff and try it and let us know how it goes lol

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Okay so I did exactly what you said. I wiped the phone from inside settings. When I booted it back up it was back to stock, because I'm not running a ROM. I did notice that when I signed into Google some of my apps started automatically redownloading. Actually almost all of them did. I am still rooted, & I do still have safestrap on my phone.

My question at this point is, I no longer have the safestrap app or the towel root app in my app drawer, but should I redownload them just so that they are in my app drawer? Will that affect the phone at all?

Thanks again
 
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Okay so I did exactly what you said. I wiped the phone from inside settings. When I booted it back up it was back to stock, because I'm not running a ROM. I did notice that when I signed into Google some of my apps started automatically redownloading. Actually almost all of them did. I am still rooted, & I do still have safestrap on my phone.

My question at this point is, I no longer have the safestrap app or the towel root app in my app drawer, but should I redownload them just so that they are in my app drawer? Will that affect the phone at all?

Thanks again
No you don't need them anymore. SS is where it needs to be regardless if it's in your app drawer or not. As long as you see it on boot up your good. Towelroot can be uninstalled after the root process is done, it's a one shot deal unless you Odin back to stock.
 

putney1477

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No you don't need them anymore. SS is where it needs to be regardless if it's in your app drawer or not. As long as you see it on boot up your good. Towelroot can be uninstalled after the root process is done, it's a one shot deal unless you Odin back to stock.
Awesome! Thanks again.

It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.
 
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Awesome! Thanks again.

It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.
No problem, I started about one year ago. I learned very early that a good backup and Odin are your best friends. lol It's pretty hard to mess up the phone beyond Odin or a backup, I've done some pretty risky things.
 

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Awesome! Thanks again.

It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.
ive been on xda since the first galaxy phone made.

i also work for a cellular company..

i have never done a factory reset on my phone (obviously haha) i always use backups or just fresh installs

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