Wondering why the S6 can't hold apps in its memory?

[Billchen0014]

Well, if you have wondered why, I think I may have the answer.
Samsung made a claim that the new Touchwiz is stripped down and optimised for better performance, well, they LIED. True optimisation isn't easy, but another manufacturer did it - HTC. Below are the two screenshots of the respective "Running" app section of the settings and see the difference? 1500MB vs 355MB. 5 times more.

My S6 is running the latest version of Touchwiz, COGA, and the M8 is running a lollipop custom ROM ported from the M9 (sort of). I sincerely hope Samsung will fix this issue, as even the 4GB RAM Note 5 and Edge Plus are also experiencing app shutdowns. What are your experiences? If you have a solution, please share. Thanks!

 

[davebugyi]

Agressive memory management and Sh*twiz cached in RAM causing this. Some custom kernels are better than stock, but no fix as of now.

 

[TheEndHK]

8GB ram is a must for TouchWiz

 

[XxM4tzexX]

Again:
the workload of the ram is not the problem!
I'm running a very stripped down TW rom and I never reach a full ram. I am around 80%. The Problem is that the system is killing processes to early, even if the ram is far away from being full. That would happen with any amount of ram.
Yes Samsung should fix this or should have already fixed that issue.

 

[dedei]

Yeah it f*cking sucks. It's rendering my g watch unusable since it's aways killing the wear app

 

[Jmldsilva]

they didn't do nothing to optimize its almost the only software to eat all the ram.. it was always like this, and now in the s6 it reloads apps.... normal..i had an s3, s4 and now s6, you can have 3 apps in background nothing more....

 

[godutch]

Again:
the workload of the ram is not the problem!
I'm running a very stripped down TW rom and I never reach a full ram. I am around 80%. The Problem is that the system is killing processes to early, even if the ram is far away from being full. That would happen with any amount of ram.
Yes Samsung should fix this or should have already fixed that issue.

yes, this ram freeing by killing apps is somehow intentional

 

[pahardie]

According to the samsungmobileuk twitter person there is no issue!

I even sent them video demonstrations. The s6 cannot multi task as well as a 3 year old nexus 4 with less memory.

 

[roiyak]

In my s6 applications running in the background, and it does not kill them
but my Ram is 75% all the time..

 

[aydc]

There is no reason for RAM to stay empty. It's very normal for an OS whether it be Windows or iOS or Android to use up all available RAM, that's the way it should be.

S6's problem is not that RAM is almost full all the time, which is normal, but that background applications get autoclosed after a short time, which is a kernel setting. My guess is that Samsung does it to save battery rather than RAM, since background apps eat up a lot of battery.

 

[pahardie]

There is no reason for RAM to stay empty. It's very normal for an OS whether it be Windows or iOS or Android to use up all available RAM, that's the way it should be.

S6's problem is not that RAM is almost full all the time, which is normal, but that background applications get autoclosed after a short time, which is a kernel setting. My guess is that Samsung does it to save battery rather than RAM, since background apps eat up a lot of battery.

Spot on well said. Have a thanks

 

[kmiloxdxd]

samsung will be always like that, i remember in s3 the same problem just worst because of lag, then s4 still laggy with touchwiz, s5 better touchwiz and still laggy, then our s6 with 3 gb of ram cant hold 4 apps in ram compared to other phone that doesnt have the crappy, useless, laggy, and ugly SH*TWIZ. Samsung always be like that and they will never fix lag and ram problems never. even S6 Edge + with 4gb of ram Still the same crap with touchwiz.
i hope cm arrives to our s6, if not we will be screwed in the new android update 6.0 marshmellow.

 

[Billchen0014]

I think more to the point, WHO gets to use the memory is what matters. In Sense, the streamlined system processes takes very little of the available ram, and the apps get to fill the rest. In Touchwiz, it's the other way round - system sucks up most of the ram. I think the key to allow more apps in the background is in reducing the amount of ram system is using on top of less aggressive app killing.

 

[bregan90]

For "Used RAM is not wasted RAM" guys...
System RAM is WASTED RAM in the sense that there are less RAM available for multitasking. Period.

 

[rkhighlight]

I already commented on this topic on reddit. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i8hgs/slug/cue76g4

Also don't forget to read my reply to one of the comments where I explain why Samsung decided to have this aggressive memory management.

 

[Divine_Madcat]

For "Used RAM is not wasted RAM" guys...
System RAM is WASTED RAM in the sense that there are less RAM available for multitasking. Period.

This would be true, *IF* things were being killed because the system is out of memory; however, that is not what is happening here... even with memory to spare, things are getting dumped.

 

[Billchen0014]

I already commented on this topic on reddit. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i8hgs/slug/cue76g4

Also don't forget to read my reply to one of the comments where I explain why Samsung decided to have this aggressive memory management.

Yes I am fully aware what he issue can be resolved by a ROOTED user in minutes but out of reach for most - I did it myself on the 5.0.2 ROM. But even though samsung promised to fix the ram issue in 5.1.1 update, fact is, people still can't open apps and leave them in the background. I hope they will release a "fix" and make the value what they should be.

 

[Jonny]

Thread closed as there is a thread already dedicated do this issue >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/galaxy-s6-ram-issues-intentional-t3172296