As the person who took the pictures I politely disagree. I find the Pixel 7 pictures better in all scenarios. More true to life colours and more detail in all of them. I have compared them side by side on a 27" calibrated monitor and the Samsung pictures are much warrmer and generally more saturated than reality.
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Well, it is a matter of personal preferences. For me, all pictures for Pixel look waaaay overprocessed. As someone said, all of LMC's pictures are much better, and for me, it is not even a fair battle. Ones from pixel appear to have more details, but it is not true and it is just a matter of overprocessing them. Same as pictures from stock Samsung apps (applies for both Main app and expertRAW). The only usable output from the Samsung apps is ExpertRAW 50 Mpix DNG.
But good thing is, that we have a choice. If someone is after verrry processed photos - go for one of the Samsung apps. If you prefer middle terrain - AGC, most natural look - LMC. The only thing that I miss in the GCAM apps now is the stacked 50 Mpix DNG.
Again, this is only my personal point of view.
This is a bit apples to oranges comparison. The Pixel screens are nowhere near close, the in screen fingerprint readers are rather sad even without screen protectors, and there is nothing that comes close to the 10x camera on the 7 pro (may change with the 8 pro). But I agree, the Pixels are a good value.For me they are more or less equal, LMC is a little too dark and very little more saturated. If Pixel is more Reality you know where to go.
Good job by Google, for half the price
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I didn't say anything about closing colors to reality, but when I looked at these photos from laptop I saw that pixel is the same oversharped and overprocessed as Samsung stock, LMC produces softer and detailed images
Here is couple of comparison photos of one image that i find interesting. Tree is more detailed in Pixel than LMC. LMC also has little greenish in blacks.I didn't say anything about closing colors to reality, but when I looked at these photos from laptop I saw that pixel is the same oversharped and overprocessed as Samsung stock, LMC produces softer and detailed images
I think focus is not in same place these photos and that maybe is reason that tree detail issues in LMC.
Yup, I think the focus was in a different spot. And on top of that Samsung has a faster lens (1.7 vs 1.9) and that means a bit shallower dof. That's the first one. As for the second example, I see the same level of detail, just more sharpening applied in pixel. And I do prefer LMC.
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I agree with you, but on the second sample, LMC has more details on the bright part and much more on the shadows.
Looks like everybody like different things in photos. I like that black is black and not greenish. Also i don't need details in shadows because i like darker shadows.
Still it's good that we have LMC gcam and other gcam too so there is little bit everything for everybody.
Still it's good that we have LMC gcam and other gcam too so there is little bit everything for everybody.
The reason why this area in LMC is greenish is exactly being true to life. It is mass of the leaves in the shadow, and leaves are green. So even bouncing linght in there have green cast. Pixel has just crushed it a bit, bumped a contrast and you have it black. LMC had a bit softer processing and that is why left it green. But yes, as you said, everybody like different things in photos.
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I think leafs has notting to do with that green tint because it's visible in other pictures too. Leafs maybe boots that green tint more in that photo.
Some pictures it is stronger and some photos you not able to see it too much unless you zoom picture. Mostly that greenish is corners of pictures. Darker or night photos you can see it better.
but overall photos are good and config too.
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If you want better and bedt photo try this. Lmc not other gcam
Maybe or it's sensor awb that prefers more green than other colors.
I have seen couple of stock camera pictures with even more greenish than these gcam configs.
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10Have uploaded v12:
6Have uploaded the new version and updated the post description:
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I believe the New south Wales font you've mentioned is because that its actually out of focus in the raw file since the aperture is really big on main lens, that gcam didnt know how to properly sharpen it since its not optimize for this camera at all.
But if you look the in focus area, stock camera was lack of detail and kinda look like painting, include the center cap you mentioned. Many source said that samsung didnt use the method that iphone 14 pro used which is cropping the 48MP main sensor to capture 2X photos, that allows the phone to use a whole 12MP to capture the scene.
I assume that samsung just using the 1X 12MP photo and crop it to 2X(so the photo only has 6MP) and then upscale to 12MP again using AI or some algorithm, thus why the poor quality.
I'm looking these on a pc with a monitor, here are some 100% zoom for compare.
Rims been deformed and lack of detail on center cap, fake detail on tires.
tons of noise cause by the sharpening algorithm
lack of detail on badges, plate and background
rear bumper been deformed, lack of detail on ground.
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25New post about my new configs for LMC R16+ for s23
Releases:
-v1 only for ultra:
-v2 for all s23:
-v3 for all s23
-v4 for all s231. Made more strong separating light/shadows styles between LDR button on/off (I prefer LDR on for all scenarios)
2. Updated chroma denoise configuration
3. Minor updates of quality from PRO button for regular s23 in middle/low light
4. Disabled shasta again, I think finally
5. Don't use night mode, use HDR++ for low light scenarios!
-v5 for all s23
-v6 for all s23
-v7 for all s23
-v8 BETA for all s23
New my configs for LMC R17+ for s23
-v1 BETA for all s23
-v2 BETA for all s23
-v3 BETA for all s23
-v4 BETA for all s231. Reverted noise models from SkyyKing007(Finesse King) to use LGV50
2. Continue experimenting with noise reduction configuration
3. Increased ISO limits for selfie camera
4. Updated black levels for x1 in ultra
-v5 for all s23
-v6 for all s23
-v7 for all s23
-v8 for all s23
-v9 for all s23
-v10 for all s23
-v11 for all s23
-v12 for all s23
-v13 for all s23
\Installation instruction:
1. Download and install LMC GCam from this page:
R16:R17:For Samsung devices, we should use packages: scan3d, ruler or aweme.
2. Create folder if not exist by path "Internal Storage/LMC8.4/"
3. Copy my xmls to this folder
4. Hold on the GCam icon and choose "Capture video"
5. Double tap on the space between the shot button and the gallery and then import my config
6. Done
Or video (thanks for @koahhe):
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UI description:
1. Google Auto White Balance toggle - alternative colors correction
2. Expo toggle - makes images a little bit brighter
3. LDR toggle - makes images more contrast with more deep shadows
4. Sport lense - optimized x1 lense for shooting dynamic objects (especially in HDRe mode)
My telegram group:
22Hi everyone,
I work on the config for all s23 series.
GCam:
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/LMC8.4_R15_ruler.apk
or
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/LMC8.4_R15_scan3d.apk
Changes log v33:
1. Disable AWB.
2. Update nose models.
3. Update sharp configuration for 0.6x and 1x cameras.
4. Update noise reduction configuration for 0.6x and 10x cameras.
5. Increase max shot time for hdr++ to have better results in low light.
Changes log v36:
1. Changed HDR models for all lenses to have a better experience when you want to work with RAW
2. Updated sharp configuration to have more clear photos.
3. Updated noise reduction configuration to have good noise balance for low-light shots.
4. Updated configuration for low light shots, to make more real and clear photos.
5. Enabled autoresize photos for x10 lense from 10Mp to 3.7Mp, because it's physics and no any sense to keep more. (but you can easily disable it)
6. Changed pro mode, now it disables limits for ISO and you can take low light shots with short shutter lag. (Especially for dynamic scenes)
7. Reduced saturation of the main camera.
Changes log for v38:
1. Disable downscaling for x10
2. Decreasing chroma noise reduction
3. Updated configuration of photo processing for frontend camera.
4. Small changes for night mode
5. Decreasing color saturation for all cameras.
Changes log for v39:
1. Changed light config for all cameras
2. Changed noise model for the main camera of small s23
3. Changed chroma noise reduction settings
4. Added separated camera module which can be used for 3D panorama with some work round
Changes log for v40:
1. Changed merge method for telephoto from SABRE to Spatial RGB
2. Updated sharping config for all cameras
3. Updated noise model for the main camera of small s23
Changes log for v41:
1. Updated noise configuration for s23 main lense.
2. Increased ISO limit for front camera.
3. Changed behavior of expo compensation from -2 to +1
Changes log for v42 (only ultra):
1. Changed JPG compression
2. Improved chroma noise reduction for the main lense
3. Provided 2 xml configs, classic and more sharper
Changes log for v43 (only ultra):
1. Updated noise models for all rear modules
2. Updated light configuration for all rear modules
3. Updated noise reduction configuration for the main camera
4. Changed expo compensation mode from +1 to -1.6
Changes log for v44 (only ultra):
1. Updated light configuration
2. Minor updates for noise reduction configuration
Changes log for v45 (only ultra):
1. Update noise reduction for all lenses.
2. Minor update light configuration for all lenses.
3. Increase color saturation for the front camera
4. Return shortcut to enable/disable AWB
Changes log for v46 (only ultra):
1. Updated noise reduction for 0.6x and 1x modules
2. Minor updates for light configuration
3. Updated AWB profiles for rear modules
4. Changed expo compensation to +1.2-1.4
Changes log for v47 (only ultra):
1. Small updates for light configuration.
2. Small color correction.
3. Small changes for expo compensation
Changes log for v48 (all s23):
1. Rebalanced noise reduction and details.
2. Updated color correction for all sensors of s23u
3. Updated color saturation for all sensors.
4. Minor changes for light configuration.
5. Adapted v48 for small s23
6. Small other tweeks.
Changes log for v49 (all s23):
1. Changed noise/details balancing for 0.6x
2. Updated light/shadows configuration
3. Updated colors configuration for front camera
4. Fixed auto-focus on face
5. Updated color correction for rear cameras of ultra
6. Changed coefficient expo time/iso to use more long expo time
Changes log for v50 (all s23):
1. Updated front cam configuration
2. Minor updates for color correction of s23u
3. Changed noise reduction for camera viewport
4. Changed contrast configuration for x10 lense
Changes log for v51 (all s23):
1. Hide zoom bar
2. Reverted color correction for s23u to default system
Changes log for v52 (all s23):
1. Updated color correction for s23 ultra.
2. Updated noise reduction config for 0.6x for all s23
3. Increased max expo time for HDR frames from 100 to 150ms for all s23
4. Returned zoom bar for all s23
5. Updated light/shadows configuration for all s23
Changes log for v53 (all s23):
1. Updated color correction for regular s23
2. Reduced max expo time for HDR frames from 150 to 80ms to reduce motion blur.
Changes log for v54 (only ultra):
1. Changed all lenses to use SABRE to have faster processing, less motion artifacts and more details in day light.
2. Updated noise configuration for SABRE
3. Updated front camera config.
4. Added focus tracking bottom in view port (now it works)
Changes log for v54 (only ultra):
1. Changed all lenses to use SABRE to have faster processing, less motion artifacts and more details in day light.
2. Updated noise reducing configuration and sharp for SABRE
3. Updated front camera config.
4. Added focus tracking bottom in view port (now it works)
5. Started using HDRNet as default mode for most cases
6. Increased max ISO for x3 and x10 to work better with HDRNet and low light
7. Changed noise models configuration.
8. Updated reducing chroma noise configuration for x1
9. Hide HDR++ frames count button and use 27 frames for very low light or complex cases.
10. Changed max shasta exp time to produce more clean results in shadows for HDR++
11. How PRO button because now no any need.
12. Fixed artifacts for HDRNet in low light.
13. Updated night mode
Changes log for v55 (all s23):
1. Adapting v54 for small s23
2. Fixed the issue with long HDR++
3. A little bit decrease noise reduction for x1 of s23u.
Changes log for v56 (only for ultra):
1. Rebalancing noise reduction/details
2. Fixed too bright night shots
Changes log for v57 (all s23):
1. Adaption for regular s23
2. Minor updates for light configuration
3. Increased limits to make all lenses a little bit brighter for low light scenes
Changes log for v58 (all s23):
1. Enabled back shasta(Gcam method to improve shadows) after resolving issue with shasta + HDRNet
2. Updated light configuration for all lenses
3. Updated noise reduction config for middle and low light
4. Added LDR button (mode for
weather 
) which increases contrast
5. Added PRO button only for regular s23 (to make photos of dynamic objects)
6. Increased a little bit limits for night shots to have a little bit brighter photos
Instruction:
1. Install GCam
2. Extract the attached archive to your root FS
3. Hold on the GCam icon and choose "Capture video"
4. Double tap on the space between the shot button and the gallery and then import my config
5. Done
User interface:
1. HDR++ frames count
2. Google Auto White Balance
3. Expo correction toggle (make all photos brighter)
4. Disable ISO limit to use HDR+ in low light if you don't want to use HDR++
14Have uploaded the new version:
12Some sample from my recent trip.
Probably is not the best photo quality on the market, but using the Gcam overall I'm very satisfied of the incredibile versatility.
Plus the device is all around the best you can find.
I did many test gcam 12mpx vs stock 50mpx and 200mpx, and i can say that most of the time high res stock is useless. Details are similar or even better with gcam at 12mpx.
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