As the person who took the pictures I politely disagree. I find the Pixel 7 pictures better in all scenarios. More true to life colours and more detail in all of them. I have compared them side by side on a 27" calibrated monitor and the Samsung pictures are much warrmer and generally more saturated than reality.
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Well, it is a matter of personal preferences. For me, all pictures for Pixel look waaaay overprocessed. As someone said, all of LMC's pictures are much better, and for me, it is not even a fair battle. Ones from pixel appear to have more details, but it is not true and it is just a matter of overprocessing them. Same as pictures from stock Samsung apps (applies for both Main app and expertRAW). The only usable output from the Samsung apps is ExpertRAW 50 Mpix DNG.
But good thing is, that we have a choice. If someone is after verrry processed photos - go for one of the Samsung apps. If you prefer middle terrain - AGC, most natural look - LMC. The only thing that I miss in the GCAM apps now is the stacked 50 Mpix DNG.
Again, this is only my personal point of view.
This is a bit apples to oranges comparison. The Pixel screens are nowhere near close, the in screen fingerprint readers are rather sad even without screen protectors, and there is nothing that comes close to the 10x camera on the 7 pro (may change with the 8 pro). But I agree, the Pixels are a good value.For me they are more or less equal, LMC is a little too dark and very little more saturated. If Pixel is more Reality you know where to go.
Good job by Google, for half the price
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I didn't say anything about closing colors to reality, but when I looked at these photos from laptop I saw that pixel is the same oversharped and overprocessed as Samsung stock, LMC produces softer and detailed images
Here is couple of comparison photos of one image that i find interesting. Tree is more detailed in Pixel than LMC. LMC also has little greenish in blacks.I didn't say anything about closing colors to reality, but when I looked at these photos from laptop I saw that pixel is the same oversharped and overprocessed as Samsung stock, LMC produces softer and detailed images
I think focus is not in same place these photos and that maybe is reason that tree detail issues in LMC.
Yup, I think the focus was in a different spot. And on top of that Samsung has a faster lens (1.7 vs 1.9) and that means a bit shallower dof. That's the first one. As for the second example, I see the same level of detail, just more sharpening applied in pixel. And I do prefer LMC.
ok i most likely won't have time to test the main cam for 1.2 today but i think i have the zoom right ..this is taken with a rapidly setting sun so it's at the limit of what is recommended for using the zoom, and the photo looks exactly true to life now (10x).
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I agree with you, but on the second sample, LMC has more details on the bright part and much more on the shadows.
Looks like everybody like different things in photos. I like that black is black and not greenish. Also i don't need details in shadows because i like darker shadows.
Still it's good that we have LMC gcam and other gcam too so there is little bit everything for everybody.
Still it's good that we have LMC gcam and other gcam too so there is little bit everything for everybody.
The reason why this area in LMC is greenish is exactly being true to life. It is mass of the leaves in the shadow, and leaves are green. So even bouncing linght in there have green cast. Pixel has just crushed it a bit, bumped a contrast and you have it black. LMC had a bit softer processing and that is why left it green. But yes, as you said, everybody like different things in photos.
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I think leafs has notting to do with that green tint because it's visible in other pictures too. Leafs maybe boots that green tint more in that photo.
Some pictures it is stronger and some photos you not able to see it too much unless you zoom picture. Mostly that greenish is corners of pictures. Darker or night photos you can see it better.
but overall photos are good and config too.
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If you want better and bedt photo try this. Lmc not other gcam
Maybe or it's sensor awb that prefers more green than other colors.
I have seen couple of stock camera pictures with even more greenish than these gcam configs.
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2here is the new version of my tweak file based on Javasabr v42 base.
It is completely changed from 1.1, all cameras have been updated, pro mode now works well in both good and low light.
**While this is fork on Java 42, it will not work with Java's files.**
This is for s23u (ultra only).
The LMC app can be found here. Use either the scan3d, ruler, or aweme version.
Immediately the app opens after granting permissions tap the video button then double tap the space between the selfie button and the shutter and select my config.
You need to be very fast before the app closes, it may take a few tries.
There are 2 choices for installing.
Either create a folder on the root drive named LMC8.4 and put my config file inside or just use the included folder and then select my config.
Do not place my config inside Java's folder ...your phone will explode ....ok well it won't explode but you will not get the intended results and will likely look completely messed up.
I also recommend clearing the cash and data to avoid any issues or conflicts from previous versions. If anything looks funny then this would be the first troubleshooting step.
If you have multiple LMC configurations you can rename the others so you can switch back and forth as long as ...and it bears repeating ...only use my confing file in a clean folder.
Just rename java's folder to something like 'LMC8.4 java' and the place my folder on the drive, then (optionally) clear cache and data, and then just open the app and select my config.
If you want to switch back rename my folder to 'LMC8.4 tmz' and rename the other back to LMC8.4.
you can go back and forth between the two, it's a couple of extra steps because they both need a folder called LMC8.4, so just rename one of them and then you can easily switch to the other config.
My suggestions are also:
Never use night mode.
Never use AWB.
Zoom and ultra-wide will not work well in low light so i don't recommend using them unless inn good light, but if you must then turn on pro mode.
You will notice I removed most of the on-screen buttons becasue they are mostly uselsss or I have them configured to my preference, but feel free to change whatever you like although I don't recommend it.
Some things may not work as intended, you can let me know.
Big thanks to JavaSabr.1
I totally agree with you. It is almost impossible to get perfect setup that works for all scenarios. Here you can see some images with expo on and off. It brightens up to image but overexposes some bright areas between clouds. However, overexposed areas looked a bit weird with some hue in these scenarios. I will try more in a sunny day. I wonder which one handles sunset better.Expo toggle allow us to cover most of cases, but of course, custom GCam cannot be a silver bullet for all people and all cases
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Sure can.
Settings > Lens settings > Any-lens > Scroll down, then change value of 'Normal frames count'. -
12Some sample from my recent trip.
Probably is not the best photo quality on the market, but using the Gcam overall I'm very satisfied of the incredibile versatility.
Plus the device is all around the best you can find.
I did many test gcam 12mpx vs stock 50mpx and 200mpx, and i can say that most of the time high res stock is useless. Details are similar or even better with gcam at 12mpx.
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I actually wish the mods would pin one post for each actively developed config somewhere to the front of the thread to save newcomers the need to wade through 45 pages of mostly discussion.9Updated v50 of my config for all s23:
9Upload v48 for all s23
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NiCkAM8PRO V1.3 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profiles): https://gofile.io/d/lqMOl7 
Changelog & Suggestions:
This release brings fixes and improvements, with higher quality shots from all back lenses, very high details and low noise (much better than stock app), good contrasts while revealing more details in shadows, natural-looking colors with controlled saturation / vibrancy / exposure. Sharpening has been a bit increased to provide slightly crisper shots as well.
As always, I'd encourage users to enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot in low-light / night time situations and under artificial lighting conditions, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results.
For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.
For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).
You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.
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15Hi everyone,
I work on the config for all s23 series.
GCam:
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/LMC8.4_R15_ruler.apk
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https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/LMC8.4_R15_scan3d.apk
Changes log v33:
1. Disable AWB.
2. Update nose models.
3. Update sharp configuration for 0.6x and 1x cameras.
4. Update noise reduction configuration for 0.6x and 10x cameras.
5. Increase max shot time for hdr++ to have better results in low light.
Changes log v36:
1. Changed HDR models for all lenses to have a better experience when you want to work with RAW
2. Updated sharp configuration to have more clear photos.
3. Updated noise reduction configuration to have good noise balance for low-light shots.
4. Updated configuration for low light shots, to make more real and clear photos.
5. Enabled autoresize photos for x10 lense from 10Mp to 3.7Mp, because it's physics and no any sense to keep more. (but you can easily disable it)
6. Changed pro mode, now it disables limits for ISO and you can take low light shots with short shutter lag. (Especially for dynamic scenes)
7. Reduced saturation of the main camera.
Changes log for v38:
1. Disable downscaling for x10
2. Decreasing chroma noise reduction
3. Updated configuration of photo processing for frontend camera.
4. Small changes for night mode
5. Decreasing color saturation for all cameras.
Changes log for v39:
1. Changed light config for all cameras
2. Changed noise model for the main camera of small s23
3. Changed chroma noise reduction settings
4. Added separated camera module which can be used for 3D panorama with some work round
Changes log for v40:
1. Changed merge method for telephoto from SABRE to Spatial RGB
2. Updated sharping config for all cameras
3. Updated noise model for the main camera of small s23
Changes log for v41:
1. Updated noise configuration for s23 main lense.
2. Increased ISO limit for front camera.
3. Changed behavior of expo compensation from -2 to +1
Changes log for v42 (only ultra):
1. Changed JPG compression
2. Improved chroma noise reduction for the main lense
3. Provided 2 xml configs, classic and more sharper
Changes log for v43 (only ultra):
1. Updated noise models for all rear modules
2. Updated light configuration for all rear modules
3. Updated noise reduction configuration for the main camera
4. Changed expo compensation mode from +1 to -1.6
Changes log for v44 (only ultra):
1. Updated light configuration
2. Minor updates for noise reduction configuration
Changes log for v45 (only ultra):
1. Update noise reduction for all lenses.
2. Minor update light configuration for all lenses.
3. Increase color saturation for the front camera
4. Return shortcut to enable/disable AWB
Changes log for v46 (only ultra):
1. Updated noise reduction for 0.6x and 1x modules
2. Minor updates for light configuration
3. Updated AWB profiles for rear modules
4. Changed expo compensation to +1.2-1.4
Changes log for v47 (only ultra):
1. Small updates for light configuration.
2. Small color correction.
3. Small changes for expo compensation
Changes log for v48 (all s23):
1. Rebalanced noise reduction and details.
2. Updated color correction for all sensors of s23u
3. Updated color saturation for all sensors.
4. Minor changes for light configuration.
5. Adapted v48 for small s23
6. Small other tweeks.
Changes log for v49 (all s23):
1. Changed noise/details balancing for 0.6x
2. Updated light/shadows configuration
3. Updated colors configuration for front camera
4. Fixed auto-focus on face
5. Updated color correction for rear cameras of ultra
6. Changed coefficient expo time/iso to use more long expo time
Changes log for v50 (all s23):
1. Updated front cam configuration
2. Minor updates for color correction of s23u
3. Changed noise reduction for camera viewport
4. Changed contrast configuration for x10 lense
Instruction:
1. Install GCam
2. Extract the attached archive to your root FS
3. Hold on the GCam icon and choose "Capture video"
4. Double tap on the space between the shot button and the gallery and then import my config
5. Done
User interface:
1. HDR++ frames count
2. Google Auto White Balance
3. Expo correction toggle (make all photos brighter)
4. Disable ISO limit to use HDR+ in low light if you don't want to use HDR++
12Some sample from my recent trip.
Probably is not the best photo quality on the market, but using the Gcam overall I'm very satisfied of the incredibile versatility.
Plus the device is all around the best you can find.
I did many test gcam 12mpx vs stock 50mpx and 200mpx, and i can say that most of the time high res stock is useless. Details are similar or even better with gcam at 12mpx.
10x
3x
Main Camera
9Updated v50 of my config for all s23:
9Upload v48 for all s23
9
I actually wish the mods would pin one post for each actively developed config somewhere to the front of the thread to save newcomers the need to wade through 45 pages of mostly discussion.
