General Working GCAM for S23 Ultra

[woffu22]

Actually the very first post is about Sgcam and the matteo lib. Which actually works and was the very first working config. It's easier for us that have been there from the start to keep up with the 47 pages of conversation. Can't blame someone coming in to start by following the instructions of the first post!

And no, it's like discussing whether the earth is flat and ignoring the last 500 years because you're too lazy to read.

 

[GroovyGeek]

And no, it's like discussing whether the earth is flat and ignoring the last 500 years because you're too lazy to read.

I actually wish the mods would pin one post for each actively developed config somewhere to the front of the thread to save newcomers the need to wade through 45 pages of mostly discussion.

 

[GroovyGeek]

Anyone been able to get QR code recognition/Google lens working on any GCAM version? The closest I have come is MCG, when you press click the QR code it says Google lens is now in modes, but it actually isn't there. aCG and LMC are completely unresponsive when presented with QR codes.

 

[CarlosLopezES]

I actually wish the mods would pin one post for each actively developed config somewhere to the front of the thread to save newcomers the need to wade through 45 pages of mostly discussion.

That would be great (and necessary), because there are a lot of configs and discussion, and for newcomers it's hard to understand.

 

[krips2003]

I think Pixel 7 Pro photos are little better imo.

Yep. I took agree with this statement. Pixel 7 Pro pictures are much better.
FYI... I have both and I like the pictures from S22U. But when I saw the pictures of LMC vs Pixel 7 Pro, then hands down Pixel 7 Pro is much better

 

[JavaSabr]

Updated v50 of my config for all s23:

Working GCAM for S23 Ultra

Or where can i try and experiment some version? I haven't dealt with gcam in the last years, so I'm bit out dated EDIT: I RECOMMEND FOLLOWING THIS POST TO INSTALL PROPER GCAM Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra'...

forum.xda-developers.com

 

[JavaSabr]

Yep. I took agree with this statement. Pixel 7 Pro pictures are much better.
FYI... I have both and I like the pictures from S22U. But when I saw the pictures of LMC vs Pixel 7 Pro, then hands down Pixel 7 Pro is much better

Again depends on preferences, if you like super sharp photos, pixel and Sam's stock well be the best

 

[Fl1nt91]

i did some more testing just now and from what i thought leaving it on auto it usually makes a good choice ...the darker the scene the higher the frame count.
The black level in those night shots is really nice.

In good light condition Auto mode works fine

But to me auto mode doesn't increase the frame number in low ligh (just the exposure time)

I can see a huge difference...

Auto vs 27 frames in low light

 

[ajarosz]

I dont get it - a dark, blurry, out of focus photo from a 200mp camera on a month old device in broad daylight is impressive ? Its appalling, it looks like a bad pic from a 10 year old phone, the other photos are good tho.

I really hope this forthcoming camera update improves the s23u, cos so far its pretty disappointing, I ve never had a camera phone with such inconsistent results. I know the wide angle lens is pathetic (especially the ridiculously low resolution), but I had high hopes for the main sensor even if the pixels are a bit small. Only the 10x zoom camera stands out (and thats mainly down to the lens rather than the sensor). In the hundreds of pictures I ve taken EVERY configuration has won at some point - AGC, stock 12mp, stock 50mp, stock 200mp, ProRaw 12mp, ProRaw 50mp (yes stock, even if the results are usually over saturated and over sharpened), and even dark and blurry LMC/Javasabr which, ironically, seems to excell in low light (no disrespect @JavaSabr, I know you do it to your taste). Theyve all scored wins, but very rarely has any been particularly impressive. The only exception is stock night mode - if its virtually pitch black (a room at night with only a little ambient light, outside with no street lighting )it ll get an impressive picture, yes it ll be quite yellow and it wont win any awards for looking natural, but it ll get you a usable picture from almost total darkness, easily beating GCAM, which was a surprise as historically this was GCAM's specialty. I even had one situation in low light where I could nt see a single difference between the 12mp and 50mp pics from stock, not minimal, difference, zero difference, so much for binning. Every time I see a picture taken with my previous Mi 10 Pro (using AGC) I think I ve made a bad decision getting this phone.

As for using 50mp and 200mp mode in GCAM, AFAIK native resolution in GCAM has only been managed on the Redmi K20, Mi 9T and Mi 10u and apparently some manufacturers hide native resolution from 3rd party apps, although seeing as this is the first phone with "chameleonCELL" binning (3 available resolutions) youd have thought theyd make at least 50mp available, but until that happens (and lets hope it does ASAP) we re stuck with inconsistent low res 12mp photos that often just dont cut it.

I can agree that using S23 Ultra is a bit frustrating. Paying so much for phone, and being forced to look for 3rd party apps just to be able to take a decent photo. Personally, I didn't find a single situation where stock JPG from both the main camera app or expert RAW was better than LMC one. Sometimes they are too dark, but Samsung apps produce just a mess. Even a night mode - I prefer to have a slightly worse dynamic range and darker image than what Samsung produces. If I see them on some part of the screen, like thumbnails in the gallery it is fine, but lack of details, processing for me is just simply a no-go.

In some cases, 50 Mpix DNG from ExpertRAW is better than LMC outputs, but it is not always the case. If only GCAMs from the current thread would have stacked RAWs and better resolution of them, well, I would be looking for a way to disable all Samsung Camera apps completely.

I hope that with future updates quality of the output from Samsung, apps will be better, and GCAMs will have other resolutions of the RAWs and the ability to stack them. It would be a win-win situation, as everyone could choose the app, that produces the result that is matching that person's taste.

As for 12 Mpix from GCAM and 50 Mpix from Samsung - I find a difference in details very small, much smaller than between stock 12 Mpix and GCAM 12 Mpix.

For me, LMC is best in like 90% of situations, as ACG applies too much noise reduction for my taste. And again, the only bright side is that with more and more configs appearing, the more choice we have.

Anyways, I think that it is good that there are people like you that don't like the outputs of correct configs. Maybe someone will start development on the config for GCAM, which will be better for you, and that is what I wish to you - so that you will have a config, that will be perfect for what you like.

 

[PhilMorin]

Personally, I didn't find a single situation where stock JPG from both the main camera app or expert RAW was better than LMC one. Sometimes they are too dark, but Samsung apps produce just a mess.

FYI, in LMC you can enable that exposure compensation button to increase exposure if that's your preference. Personally, on each new release I got to photo processing, in each lens, exposure, and I set "exposure darker" back to default to make it a bit brighter, and you can then save the config over the same name in case you often switch between XMLs. And I can always use that expo compensation button for even a bigger boost on occasion.

 

[JavaSabr]

FYI, in LMC you can enable that exposure compensation button to increase exposure if that's your preference. Personally, on each new release I got to photo processing, in each lens, exposure, and I set "exposure darker" back to default to make it a bit brighter, and you can then save the config over the same name in case you often switch between XMLs. And I can always use that expo compensation button for even a bigger boost on occasion.

Is the expo button not enough for you?

 

[PhilMorin]

Is the expo button not enough for you?

I just don't like to see that button enabled at all times I like to have the option to click it when I want more. But I also haven't tested the exposure darker to 1 in enough cases to see if I'm happy with it all the time or if I'll revert back to the expo button. Just figured I'd point out an easy way to fix it to people's preference if they prefer brighter images

 

[PhilMorin]

Is the expo button not enough for you?

Actually interestingly enough, just tested it in my office with neon lights... And setting expo darker back to 1 blows out the lights while expo compensation manages to keep those lights under control. I guess I'm back to expo button, scratch previous comment

 

[Surfeur-des-Reves]

NiCkAM8PRO V2.4 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/yeTKlN

[ RE-UPLOADED to V2.4.1, fixed a bug when using Zoom 10x being too dark... ]

Changelog:

New 'profiles' added for all lenses, back & front! Now, users can choose (by pressing the top-right icon on the viewfinder) between "Authentic", "Black & White", Sepia" or "Bright", each with their own characteristics. They can even be combined with the included "Leica" profile for added vignetting and some slightly different colors & white balance. Details-to-Noise ratio was also slightly improved for all lenses and several corrections were made to the already existing profiles, for all lenses.

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.
2) Install the APK file.
3) Start the app and make sure you grant all needed permissions for it to work correctly.
4) Open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile and have fun!

/// Preferably enable 'HDR+Enhanced' photo mode for Selfies under low-light, for cleaner shots \\\

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

Cheers!

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Just a quick comparison, interior shot under semi-low light (it's night time here, sorry haha), between Samsung stock app and AGC V2.4.1 ("Authentic" mode), using 10x Zoom lens.

STOCK


AGC

 

[ajarosz]

For me brightness thing is a matter of optimal usage of imagespace. While I like the look, if I open histogram, for many images 1/5-1/4 of the right side of the histogram is almost not used. That means, that it is more likely that color gradation will have a banding, because it used not 256 of possible color values, but rather 180-200. So just from the point of view of image quality per se, it is sometimes better to have a tad brighter image.

 

[Ipse_Tase]

It has been said before, but I want to add my thanks to all of you who are tirelessly testing and fine tuning GCam as a viable alternative to the stock software - which has a few glaring shortcomings.
In exchange for the Tensor chips, Scamsung should ask Google to provide the camera software for their phones. Everyone wins....

 

[ajarosz]

It has been said before, but I want to add my thanks to all of you who are tirelessly testing and fine tuning GCam as a viable alternative to the stock software - which has a few glaring shortcomings.
In exchange for the Tensor chips, Scamsung should ask Google to provide the camera software for their phones. Everyone wins....

But Google did not get them for free. Samsung can buy processing if google is willing to se, but why Google should get it for free? The processing is one of the main advantages of pixel phones.

 

[Fl1nt91]

It has been said before, but I want to add my thanks to all of you who are tirelessly testing and fine tuning GCam as a viable alternative to the stock software - which has a few glaring shortcomings.
In exchange for the Tensor chips, Scamsung should ask Google to provide the camera software for their phones. Everyone wins....

I bet is a kind of choice.

I don't believe that a giant like Samsung cannot hire a couple of guy just to improve their software, while an unofficial porting by some dev online can produce so much better results

 

[Noveyro]

The darkness issue seems to be solved with the v50. Here you can see some gcam and stock examples (12-50-200mp modes).
Picture softening is at medium on camera assistant settings.

I really don't like the colors that comes out of stock mode. In daylight 200Mp gives decent results but it is not usable when medium to low light. For 12Mp mode, it applies greenish tint when excessive HDR is required in the scene. Other than that, the colors are too saturated for my taste. GCam gives more natural results for now. I will keep posting in different scenarios when new version is released.

Lastly, do you also have that blurry edges just like in those examples? It is probably sensor hardware thing but i have never noticed similar thing on my previous phones.

 

[vincanity68210]

Could someone tell me if it is normal for LMC to crash when I click on the 3D button?

Does Photosphere work with LMC? No crash but a black screen.

Finally, can the language be changed?

Thank you all for keeping this forum alive and congratulations to all for the work