General X70 pro+ with Origin OS—Initial Review

[piskr]

Something weird happened after my last update. I'm now on PD2145_A_5.13.31. It's a trial version and man can expect glitches but anyway it hits me as a surprise. Namely, Google pay (NFC payment suddenly stops working). The reason supposed to be that my phone is either rooted, bootloader unlocked or has trial version of the system. It had a lot of trial OSes before and that problem never occurred.

What is strange, the device is still Google certified, SafetyNet totally passes, all other banks' app (EU ones which are usually more sensitive than Gpay) work flawlessly.

Therefore, I can't find out who is responsible for the failure, Vivo or Google. Hope that next upgrade is around the corner. On the other way, we all know that the old Gpay app is to be replaced with the Gwallet. And as Google tells me when I'm digging in the reason for the failure, it would happen soon, till the 15 of June.

 

[piskr]

Just for information - GPay came back in about 3 days after failure. Thanks, Google and Vivo.

 

[frcraig]

There is a setting on my Vivo X Note (CN) Origin OS Ocean that I don't understand. If you open the i-dialer and go to the dots at the top right of the screen under Call Settings / Advanced Call Settings / Sim 1 you see IP Prefix, and a spot to enter an IP Prefix. What is an IP Prefix? It is blank by default.

 

[piskr]

I don't think it's anything useful. It's a link to a voip central (https://support.sasktel.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12155/~/understanding-your-ip-relay-number). But native sip is broken in Android quite a long.


Anyway, I believe your research is heading in the right direction. Why don't you go further? The first viable option is Google Voice. You can transfer your number to GV and pay nothing for calls to US and Canada. Though calls end in fixed telephony through a gateway, they start and end in your phone as data, and you eliminate an LTE 5G problem. And I think that you can also transfer your number back to the mobile operator if you wish so.


You can also choose from a variety of VOIP providers. I use Zadarma on per call billing (for a fraction of money) but there is no way that someone could call your original number (if I call the recipient, it sees my original number though). Calls are very reliable, without lag and crystal clear since they are VOIP.


But there are others, mostly from US, and if you pay per month you can also transfer your number to VOIP. And the price won't brake your budget (https://www.vonageforhome.com/personal/why-vonage/).


I guess, if you want to eliminate the obstacle, which comes with Vivo phone and at least temporally lack of VoLTE, you should look at your relationship with the operator differently. You can get calling support from elsewhere, all you need from an operator, is a decent data pack. Postpaid or prepaid, whatever comes cheaper.

 

[frcraig]

I don't think it's anything useful. It's a link to a voip central (https://support.sasktel.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12155/~/understanding-your-ip-relay-number). But native sip is broken in Android quite a long.


Anyway, I believe your research is heading in the right direction. Why don't you go further? The first viable option is Google Voice. You can transfer your number to GV and pay nothing for calls to US and Canada. Though calls end in fixed telephony through a gateway, they start and end in your phone as data, and you eliminate an LTE 5G problem. And I think that you can also transfer your number back to the mobile operator if you wish so.


You can also choose from a variety of VOIP providers. I use Zadarma on per call billing (for a fraction of money) but there is no way that someone could call your original number (if I call the recipient, it sees my original number though). Calls are very reliable, without lag and crystal clear since they are VOIP.


But there are others, mostly from US, and if you pay per month you can also transfer your number to VOIP. And the price won't brake your budget (https://www.vonageforhome.com/personal/why-vonage/).


I guess, if you want to eliminate the obstacle, which comes with Vivo phone and at least temporally lack of VoLTE, you should look at your relationship with the operator differently. You can get calling support from elsewhere, all you need from an operator, is a decent data pack. Postpaid or prepaid, whatever comes cheaper.

Thank you. Your solution was so obvious that I feel stupid because it was right under my nose. I have a Google Voice account. At home in Canada, where we still have 3G networks, I don't mind my voice calls dropping from LTE to 3G, but when I travel to the United States and can't place calls without VoLTE I will just use my Google Voice app to place calls, as I still connect to 4G or 5G mobile data.

 

[Lexxmark]

Hello, everyone. When we can expect the Android 12 update? And probably Origin 2.0. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

 

[piskr]

Not sure. Like someone has written here, it may not even come. If it does, it is about the time.
I don't really care about Android 12. I have it on my tablet, and the only changes from 11 are more or less in design. But Ocean already has its own design and I kinda like it. Android 13 looks like a totally different ballgame. It brings substantial changes.

 

[tastyounguy]

Hi gentlemen, is there a way to get 'Hey Google' working on this specific model? Any instruction would be very much appreciated!

 

[Lexxmark]

Hello, everyone. I've got a reply from Vivo customer support: ''Android 12 update for Origin OS has already been launched and released to the public gradually. Hopefully you will also receive this update soon in your mobile.''

 

[renderjoe]

Hello, everyone. I've got a reply from Vivo customer support: ''Android 12 update for Origin OS has already been launched and released to the public gradually. Hopefully you will also receive this update soon in your mobile.''

May I ask you which Vivo customer support have given you this answer? Directly from mainland China?

 

[tohanov]

Hello, everyone. I've got a reply from Vivo customer support: ''Android 12 update for Origin OS has already been launched and released to the public gradually. Hopefully you will also receive this update soon in your mobile.''

Gradually? Do they mean a beta program?

 

[renderjoe]

Gradually? Do they mean a beta program?

I am registered for the beta program, but I didn‘t get a update until now.

 

[Lexxmark]

May I ask you which Vivo customer support have given you this answer? Directly from mainland China?

No, from Vivo global customer support.