Themes / Apps / Mods X90 pro + Script to Remove Vivo system app (ver. 2.5)

[luontokoodaus]

Hi,
i removed some of the apps (not all) with the debloat-Script. Now the weather-app keeps crashing when i try to open it. The widget is still working.
Does anybody knwo, which package could it be that i have to re enable?

Check the list...

 

[MaikTheMachine]

Check the list...

I did this already. But there are like a hundered packages. I've already reactivated a few that I thought might have something to do with it, but unfortunately that didn't help.

 

[nightm]

Hi, just to let you know, we are finally able to remove via adb even previously uninstallable apps thanks to hack described here - https://stackoverflow.com/a/75192739/1616437 . Basically e.g.

adb shell service call package 131 s16 com.vivo.browser i32 0 i32 0

 

[Juanjo0op11]

Hi, just to let you know, we are finally able to remove via adb even previously uninstallable apps thanks to hack described here - https://stackoverflow.com/a/75192739/1616437 . Basically

Someone has done this with the X90 PRO PLUS. It would be very interesting if applications such as WhatsApp, Facebook, etc. can be added. To the nanoalerts. OriginsOS already lets you clone Google apps. This sounds like hope

 

[pastorek88]

I can ask for advice on how to remove such applications vivocloud, Lens kit, Jovi Lens, Themes

 

[extremecarver]

Seems with next update impossible to remove vivo.pem anymore as it will also show user restricted message. So anyone who hasn't removed it by then good bye notifications...
Its already the case on vivo x fold (2).

Vivo really seems to know how to make their O.S. even worse.

If this continues like this then by android 14 adb will be useless as you then can only use it to remove apps that you could remove via O.S. app manager anyhow...

 

[Juanjo0op11]

Seems with next update impossible to remove vivo.pem anymore as it will also show user restricted message. So anyone who hasn't removed it by then good bye notifications...
Its already the case on vivo x fold (2).

Vivo really seems to know how to make their O.S. even worse.

If this continues like this then by android 14 adb will be useless as you then can only use it to remove apps that you could remove via O.S. app manager anyhow...

Seems with next update impossible to remove vivo.pem anymore as it will also show user restricted message. So anyone who hasn't removed it by then good bye notifications...
Its already the case on vivo x fold (2).

Vivo really seems to know how to make their O.S. even worse.

If this continues like this then by android 14 adb will be useless as you then can only use it to remove apps that you could remove via O.S. app manager anyhow...

Devils! I seriously don't know how they want to expand globally.

 

[P6P]

Devils! I seriously don't know how they want to expand globally.

I think they don't care about that.

 

[extremecarver]

Well it fits perfectly into the strategy that the Chinese decide how you should use your phone and which apps work reliably, which apps are working but cumbersome and which apps will be blocked by censorship.

Because apps like WhatsApp, Instagram or especially tinder are quite common in China for people who have some connections with outside China (that's a minority, but still at least hundred million people). The great firewall, leaky banning of VPN and so where always at least as much to support Chinese software houses as they where a tool to censor people. That we cannot remove vivo.pem anymore on phones intended for Chinese market only is just a strengthening of this principle. And unlike Xiaomi for which exports due to bootloader unlock and flashable global ROM are actually a small but significant market, they aren't for vivo.
That's also why Vivo has not blocked band 20. They intend to provide a phone that is usable in the way the Chinese government seems fit only, so if your phone outright doesn't work for people who want to use apps/tools that are not intended to be used by Chinese government, you don't need to remove band 20 and annoy the hordes of Chinese tourists when they travel to Europe.

Every os update so far made adg debloat harder and less effective by blocking more and more apps to be removed. Vivo.pem is just the final and most important one for user experience. That you cannot (easily) remove the spyware tools vivo.abe and push.notifications was a kick on experienced users, that you cannot remove vivo.pem is a kick in the but of mainstream users to comply with Chinese authority app choices. Because those Chinese users that use foreign apps most also remove vivo.pem.

Should vivo decide to reinstall vivo.pem via a firmware update, eg update to origin OS 4, then it's game over.

The only strange thing is that vivo is alone with that vivo.pem app so far in BBK. Their other brands don't have it yet and you can get notifications to work for all apps without debloat.

 

[allonssvp]

Has anyone found a workaround to remove com.vivo.pem (on x fold 2) yet? I am not getting any notifications at all

 

[Tiverask]

@allonssvp you don't need to remove com.vivo.pem or any system packages to get notifications to work

- Allow 'high power consumption' (probably not even needed)
- Allow the 'auto start' permission
- Configure notifications (different apps have different defaults where some only enable sound or silent notifications with no bubbles)

 

[allonssvp]

@allonssvp you don't need to remove com.vivo.pem or any system packages to get notifications to work

- Allow 'high power consumption' (probably not even needed)
- Allow the 'auto start' permission
- Configure notifications (different apps have different defaults where some only enable sound or silent notifications with no bubbles)

I see thanks, turning on autostart does seem to work for FB messenger at least. However it's quite annoying to turn on for every app so I wanted a general solution

 

[extremecarver]

@allonssvp you don't need to remove com.vivo.pem or any system packages to get notifications to work

- Allow 'high power consumption' (probably not even needed)
- Allow the 'auto start' permission
- Configure notifications (different apps have different defaults where some only enable sound or silent notifications with no bubbles)

There are plenty of apps where this isn't enough, for example signal. Only get notifications after removing vivo.pem.
Above is even needed with vivo.pem removed.

 

[Tiverask]

@allonssvp I agree but fortunately you only need to do it once

 

[allonssvp]

@allonssvp I agree but fortunately you only need to do it once

As extremecarver mentioned, this does not seem to work for all apps including gmail for some reason.

 

[Tiverask]

@allonssvp that's the same person who believes a factory reset somehow modifies the OS causing integrity issues. Personally haven't experienced a single issue with receiving notifications in all the months I've had this phone but your mileage may vary of course.

 

[extremecarver]

@allonssvp that's the same person who believes a factory reset somehow modifies the OS causing integrity issues. Personally haven't experienced a single issue with receiving notifications in all the months I've had this phone but your mileage may vary of course.

what rubbish if you mean I belive a factory reset causes OS integrity issues - reread the topic concerning TS. And I don't believe a factory reset can clean up the mess that TS did on those phones. The only way to fix them would be to flash a clean untampered OS which doesn't seem possible. I believe TS tampered the OS image they play onto that phone (likely being able to sign the OS with their own key). Or alternatively they mess using vtool apk. There are some videos on youku that show that Chinese users have been able to access blocked areas on that phone, that allow quite a lot of messing around. No one here on xdr has been able to get into those service menus. As those menus are in Chinese I'm a bit unsure about some of their settings - but it seems like a full blown service menu allowing to tamper a lot. I'm pretty sure TS has access to this X90pro+ compatible vtool.apk (it is different from the one that is shared on xdr)

And yeah if I remember right gmail also doesn't work with vivo.pem installed. Also google alarm if I remember right. I tried once re installing vivo.pem, alls things set to allow/autostart and so on - but some apps just miss notifications for long time (like one hour dely if phone was display off for 15 minutes or longer before) with it installed.

It's possible to remove the vivo power management all together, it's several packages - Then there is no more autostart menu entry, it also removes the menu entry for high battery power management. Maybe in that case vivo.pem becomes irrelevant. You will then just need to start all apps manually because autostart is gone for good, as is however vivos power management. Strangely dark mode/ vibration mode are then still breaking notifcations from showing before turning screen on (logs show that the notifcations do arrive)

 

[P6P]

@allonssvp that's the same person who believes a factory reset somehow modifies the OS causing integrity issues. Personally haven't experienced a single issue with receiving notifications in all the months I've had this phone but your mileage may vary of course.

Usually i fully disagree with everything he writes because it's just nonsense and cluelessness but I fear in this case he is right.

I really wish there was another solution without messing with some system apps because there is always the risk to break something important. But for some apps it's really needed to remove vivo.pem because everything else just isn't enough. I have also seen some people here on xda or telegram who confirmed that.

However before messing with adb and removing pem i would suggest everyone to try what you wrote before.

 

[Juanjo0op11]

what rubbish if you mean I belive a factory reset causes OS integrity issues - reread the topic concerning TS. And I don't believe a factory reset can clean up the mess that TS did on those phones. The only way to fix them would be to flash a clean untampered OS which doesn't seem possible. I believe TS tampered the OS image they play onto that phone (likely being able to sign the OS with their own key). Or alternatively they mess using vtool apk. There are some videos on youku that show that Chinese users have been able to access blocked areas on that phone, that allow quite a lot of messing around. No one here on xdr has been able to get into those service menus. As those menus are in Chinese I'm a bit unsure about some of their settings - but it seems like a full blown service menu allowing to tamper a lot. I'm pretty sure TS has access to this X90pro+ compatible vtool.apk (it is different from the one that is shared on xdr)

And yeah if I remember right gmail also doesn't work with vivo.pem installed. Also google alarm if I remember right. I tried once re installing vivo.pem, alls things set to allow/autostart and so on - but some apps just miss notifications for long time (like one hour dely if phone was display off for 15 minutes or longer before) with it installed.

It's possible to remove the vivo power management all together, it's several packages - Then there is no more autostart menu entry, it also removes the menu entry for high battery power management. Maybe in that case vivo.pem becomes irrelevant. You will then just need to start all apps manually because autostart is gone for good, as is however vivos power management. Strangely dark mode/ vibration mode are then still breaking notifcations from showing before turning screen on (logs show that the notifcations do arrive)

I have X90 PRO+ and no app fails me with Facebook, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Gmail, Outlook and bank app notifications. The only app that doesn't ring but vibrates and arrives on time is Messager. This is always in dark mode.
I just gave permissions to everything and high power source all that and I removed com.vivo.pem also remove the smart control notifications permission in notifications. I don't know if the telephone company has anything to do with it. I'm from Mexico and I use TELCEL.
I remember that before you couldn't clone the apps and now you can several, I still hope that they do something in favor of the nanoalerts and that the app icons appear always on display.

 

[extremecarver]

So far there are no reports that your telco provider has anything to do with it. At least apart from chinese telcos. But if it's foreign, it should not matter which one at all.
China Unicom and China mobile do have branded X90PP which come with some more apps preinstalled (I don't know if you can or cannot remove them). Well possible those are different. But it is super unlikely you get such a device outside of China.


BTW - all apps that can be removed/disabled via standard adb uninstall can also be disabled via swiftbackup in shizuku mode. Just install shizuku, connect it, and then you can quickly disable/enable quite a lot of system apps. of course not the annoying ones which have some sort of protection (swiftbackup is the only tool that works from all I tested so far - those that need special treatment like call service or require password for uninstall - cannot be disabled via swiftbackup. Also it only has a disable function no adb uninstall. It does provide people a way to adb disable apps who don't want to use command line or have no computer available).