Question X90 Pro+ vs Honor Magic 5 Pro

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Yes, Qualcomm charges a very high fee, and last year red rice K50 was criticized by Qualcomm for using MediaTek chips and even executives were punished
extremecarver said:
Tech websites mainly for Samsung what I've seen except on launch day. Those are relatively cheap. The world cup is the most expensive advertisment venue that exists (Superbowl is a single evening). I live in Taiwan over winter and vivo had much more adverts here vs s23U and that with the x90pro and x90 basically not sold anywhere and list price for x90 pro being more than s23plus which is ridiculous.

And during that time they even plastered tv stations for 3 weeks all while the device wasn't even available (only preorder in China)...

If vivo wouldn't belong to BBK I would have expected them to go bankrupt on that campaign seeing their market share which is mainly made up by budget phones in India and China..
And vivo basically only sells phones (their audio products are a thing of the past). Xiaomi or Samsung sell your full household (Xiaomi in China only) so them advertising one product will give a lot of cross sells to other products...

But back on topic:
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Honor Magic5 Pro review

The Honor Magic5 Pro is yet another interesting flagship cameraphone to come to the global markets. It will be remembered for its unique design, premium...
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The battery life is pretty bad. Kinda same drain as x90pp only that it has 10% better battery life due to 10% larger battery.
Why so far have all except Xiaomi 13 pro and S23u skipped out on fast connect 7800, and seemingly all but Samsung on x70. Has Qualcomm increased their prices so much? (I don't know what Motorola did. Their 8gen2 device has very little information outside China but it's very cheap so likely big compromises too).
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extremecarver said:
Tech websites mainly for Samsung what I've seen except on launch day. Those are relatively cheap. The world cup is the most expensive advertisment venue that exists (Superbowl is a single evening). I live in Taiwan over winter and vivo had much more adverts here vs s23U and that with the x90pro and x90 basically not sold anywhere and list price for x90 pro being more than s23plus which is ridiculous.

And during that time they even plastered tv stations for 3 weeks all while the device wasn't even available (only preorder in China)...

If vivo wouldn't belong to BBK I would have expected them to go bankrupt on that campaign seeing their market share which is mainly made up by budget phones in India and China..
And vivo basically only sells phones (their audio products are a thing of the past). Xiaomi or Samsung sell your full household (Xiaomi in China only) so them advertising one product will give a lot of cross sells to other products...

But back on topic:
m.gsmarena.com

Honor Magic5 Pro review

The Honor Magic5 Pro is yet another interesting flagship cameraphone to come to the global markets. It will be remembered for its unique design, premium...
m.gsmarena.com m.gsmarena.com

The battery life is pretty bad. Kinda same drain as x90pp only that it has 10% better battery life due to 10% larger battery.
Why so far have all except Xiaomi 13 pro and S23u skipped out on fast connect 7800, and seemingly all but Samsung on x70. Has Qualcomm increased their prices so much? (I don't know what Motorola did. Their 8gen2 device has very little information outside China but it's very cheap so likely big compromises too).
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Unfortunately you are wrong Actually & according to Qualcomm all flagships except samsung feature WiFi 7 & FastConnect 7800
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Leading Wi-Fi 7 Momentum at MWC Barcelona

As the Wi-Fi 7 era dawns, Qualcomm Technologies is again poised as the world’s leading wireless technology innovator; working with our global ecosystem of partners and driving the transition to the next generation of Wi-Fi.
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But they clearly don't. Fast connect 7800 supports wifi 7 which most don't. that and ant+ is the difference to 6900. I know the press statements but the features clearly aren't supported. Those with wi-fi 6e maybe enable them later? X90PP doesn't even have 6e.
 
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Tovi works has the absolute best reviews on YouTube for me. Too bad he doesn't extend them to software (except camera) and it's hardware only reviews.

The included case is just like I would like for x90pro+ but cannot find. Camera protection and airpockets in a small compact design (no portruding air pockets).

The cooling is super poor but it only matters if you gane (no one reported overheating from camera use yet). So for non gamers like me (and likely most x90pro plus buyers as for gaming others are still clearly better) it doesn't matter.
Camera clearly has some pros and cons (and yeah it's adapted right for dxomark testing - dxomark is objective but they allow sponsors to get their test protocol so they can optimize just for it. Which matters mainly for camera and display. The audio and battery is hard to design for the test without generally hitting.
 
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extremecarver said:
But they clearly don't. Fast connect 7800 supports wifi 7 which most don't. that and ant+ is the difference to 6900. I know the press statements but the features clearly aren't supported. Those with wi-fi 6e maybe enable them later? X90PP doesn't even have 6e.
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All of them Xiaomi, Vevo , Honor & OnePlus all announced that they will enable it via software update once it is ready, all except Samsung unfortunately.
 
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Its not that bad. MIUI is worse by a lot.
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I had the mi11 ultra for 2 years and the software is much better than my Vivo 90 pro+. Sometimes when I launch an app from home screen, it crashes and may require a data clear to run. The phone app is very buggy, sometimes answering calls is impossible and the call IU screen is stuck until the incoming call is declined or when the person hangs up. When I end the call, it is a 5 sec delay until it ends. The most recent update seems to make it worse.
 
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Robert235 said:
I had the mi11 ultra for 2 years and the software is much better than my Vivo 90 pro+. Sometimes when I launch an app from home screen, it crashes and may require a data clear to run. The phone app is very buggy, sometimes answering calls is impossible and the call IU screen is stuck until the incoming call is declined or when the person hangs up. When I end the call, it is a 5 sec delay until it ends. The most recent update seems to make it worse.
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I don't have any of the mentioned issues. It's super stable for me. The only bug i have is notification bug in dark mode and some minor visual animation bugs.
 
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    maxel77
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    extremecarver said:
    Well I have 470mah per hour surfing on 4G with lots of data, 400mah if little data (room light, not outdoors).. 5-6% /hour on WiFi which is better than your quoted 350maH and actually quite a lot better than most review websites. That's 235-260maH. But it's standby without WiFi and especially power use if outdoors and far away from cities (but close enough to have 1-2 cells) that drains this phone like no tomorrow. Though luckily standby did improve a bit on latest update too. Down to 0.8% per hour from 1.5% that it was on release and 1% the last month (that is really deep sleep, not average screen off).

    And yeah about 1GB of 4G data equals 1% battery (with good reception, if outdoors with bad reception this can go up to 5% and thats really crazy, meaning google photos backup or similar will drain this phone if I don't switch off auto backup while being outdoors). I said already I consume 300-400GB mobile data a month so to me this really matters. My old p30pro was much better, as are phones that actually have the new Qualcomm x70 modem.
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    In Italy we usually say that a man is making too much "mental masturbation" when all he does is create problems in his own head. What's the problem with battery?
    From what I see the Vivo X90 Pro Plus has a very good battery that lasts me more than 24 hours without problems despite using it a lot. Need more autonomy? Maybe you should take 2 phones or a power bank with you. :D Even with S23 Ultra do you think the battery life is double? it will last at most 1 hour more with screen on and I'm not even sure about this thing.

    You must convince youselves that the perfect phone doesn't exist. I'm sure you won't be 100% happy also with S23U and Honor Magic 5 Pro.
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    vendetta17
    extremecarver said:
    Looks like the much much better X90 Pro+ on first look.

    Software Policy that promises 3 major android upgrades, 5 years of security updates vs nothing on Vivo (likely 1-2 major upgrades only). Caveat on MWC it was spotted with Android 12 out of the box - but the China OS version seems to be on Android 13. Very unlikely it will launch with Android 12.
    Software stability/notificatins: Yeah Huawei/Honor isn't top but way better than Vivo.
    Google: fully inbuilt on European model - no China OS spyware
    Sensor: Yes it's only 1/1.12" but it has F1.6 vs F1.8 so the natural bokeh will be pretty identical. Amount of light per pixel even slightly better
    Ultrawicde: a bit higher quality sensor,
    Selfie sensor: much better.
    Zoom: Identical but faster lens - so in theory also slightly better. F3.0 vs F3.5
    Camera software: well Huawei has always been top...
    Battery: 5100maH (Global version only, Chinese gets 5450) vs 4700 on X90..

    Bluetooth: X90 Pro+ has 5.3 s 5.2 only on Huawei.
    Wifi: some special Wifi 6 promised - but both miss Wifi 6e and Wifi 7 as it looks now
    esim: Magic 5 Pro should come with e-sim and dual sim for Europe.


    Price: 1200€ including VAT and warranty in Europa - price is for Germany.... (that's basically identical to China plus VAT)
    Price in China: The 90 Pro+ has today dropped today with vouchers to 4500RMB on JD (quite a drop from once 6999RMB even tough it was available at 6000 right from the start - Magic 5 Pro starts at 7473RMB - don't know about discounts... Clearly in China the X90Pro+ is a bargain vs the Magic 5 Pro in price right now. S23 Ultra goes for around 78000 RMB in China for the 512GB version.


    Biggest default for Magic 5 Pro: concering camera: no variable aperture! This will hurt exactly the same as on X90 Pro+. Likely Xiaomi 13 Ultra will have the better main camera due to variable aperture on the IMX 989.
    Magic 5 Pro likely has small Ultrasonic fingerprint sensor only (however their face unlock should be safer - unlike Vivo that opens with a picture...)
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    Hello , my lovely friend . Can i ask you again why you bought such a bad phone like the X90 pro plus ? what are you trying to prove here? I know i risk getting blocked soon because of you . Can you please tell me why on earth you still use the x90 pro plus? we got your point , its sh*t , you hate it . You are the only guy here who has this opinion .even so we respect that. Why do you use this phone if its so dissapointing to you ?
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    Differences are big if you ask me . Turns out that the Magic 5 Pro its a overhyped product , camera wise . Just like the s23 Ultra .
    Cant believe my eyes how bad the ultrawide lens its on the Honor
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    Supreme_One said:
    What about the bad software of the Vivo?
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    I used both Xiaomi and Vivo . No competition for my taste , i prefer Vivo's OS way better .
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    maxel77 said:
    The sad thing is that he bought it thinking it was a battery phone but he is also complaing about photo quality even if in many comparison Vivo is better than S23U.
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    He is complaining about battery , camera , design , modem , google services ( everybody knows the problems with chinese phones) . How is that possible ? How is that even being tolerated every single day its beyond my power of understanding . I get it peoples got opinions , i like criticism as long as its constructive and realistic . But he is literally aberrating . Im ready to be banned right now . Banned for speaking in the name of 99% of this forum .
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