Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 beats ROG phone 5 with GPU Overclock

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astronomy2021

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As said before it's not possible to overclock sd870's gpu higher than 683 MHz
It is possible guys but Poco F3 has lock frequency to 683 MHz every unit before March 2021 has unlock freq.
Xiaomi and few others limited phones SD870 to not be as good as 888 with cost more.

Motorola Edge S has Snapdragon 870 and stock freq out of the box 905MHz without any OC it is from Manufacturer.
 
It is possible guys but Poco F3 has lock frequency to 683 MHz every unit before March 2021 has unlock freq.
Xiaomi and few others limited phones SD870 to not be as good as 888 with cost more.

Motorola Edge S has Snapdragon 870 and stock freq out of the box 905MHz without any OC it is from Manufacturer.
My unit was produced in March, according to the box. Does this mean that I can try to overclock to higher values?
 
I don't know friend told me about it. Try looking or find to search word "kona"
there are 65 results found with kona, but there's no version written on any of them
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astronomy2021

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Bro, can you also make a Konabess config file + thermals for SD870 please...🙏🙏
Here is thermal disabler Magisk Module and Thermal Config changer app if you want Thermal profile to lower heat select Dynamic Evaluation in this app or FKM.

I recommend disabling Thermal Engine at all. Qualcomm has hardware throttling which still works this is the best but software from Xiaomi or others will be disable similar to Gaming Phones.

Here is zip with configs for Poco F3 aka Snapdragon 870 with Stock 670MHz ,680 MHz OC and 683MHz.
 

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Here is thermal disabler Magisk Module and Thermal Config changer app if you want Thermal profile to lower heat select Dynamic Evaluation in this app or FKM.

I recommend disabling Thermal Engine at all. Qualcomm has hardware throttling which still works this is the best but software from Xiaomi or others will be disable similar to Gaming Phones.

Here is zip with configs for Poco F3 aka Snapdragon 870 with Stock 670MHz ,680 MHz OC and 683MHz.
I have them already..
Screenshot_20220130-011952_Magisk.png

but,
Can you make a configs for the OCs like 900mhz etc???
 

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If it stable that ok.
You check if frequency is stable by locking freq min and Max to one number like 905MHz.
What frequency do you need max ?
I tested 940MHz is max with gives good stable results.
Pls share 940 then...
I've made 2 configs myself, pls check if any good...and edit if not good...
 

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You config 940MHz is ideal but I increase Voltage one stop because of tested stability on 940MHz in many apps.
Second thing is 670MHz increase to 687MHz with NOM Voltage is you don't have any problems you can drop it to SVS_L2.

Most important thing is if you want be 100% safe with OC use 905MHz OC because Voltage regular is design to handle max 905MHz others are safe if you don't see any artefacts but experimental.

I recommend that you edit and delete this two config to not get someone confused about stability an device.

Turbo_l0 from 905MHz to 925MHz and Turbo_L1 940MHz and above Max I recommend is 950MHz oif you get better benchmarks that on 940MHz which is unlikely.

So if you want experiment on higher stable frequency use Turbo_L1.

You can try lowering for better battery if you can get stable voltage 905MHz to Turbo or NOM_L2 and 850-800 to NOM_L1 .
I included 925MHz because it middle and last stable freq on Turbo_L0 Voltage.
 

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You config 940MHz is ideal but I increase Voltage one stop because of tested stability on 940MHz in many apps.
Second thing is 670MHz increase to 687MHz with NOM Voltage is you don't have any problems you can drop it to SVS_L2.

Most important thing is if you want be 100% safe with OC use 905MHz OC because Voltage regular is design to handle max 905MHz others are safe if you don't see any artefacts but experimental.

I recommend that you edit and delete this two config to not get someone confused about stability an device.

Turbo_l0 from 905MHz to 925MHz and Turbo_L1 940MHz and above Max I recommend is 950MHz oif you get better benchmarks that on 940MHz which is unlikely.

So if you want experiment on higher stable frequency use Turbo_L1.

You can try lowering for better battery if you can get stable voltage 905MHz to Turbo or NOM_L2 and 850-800 to NOM_L1 .
I included 925MHz because it middle and last stable freq on Turbo_L0 Voltage.
Bro you on tg??, I wanna talk to you personally and have some doubts...I wanna clear themm...
 

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    Using this with magisk, will need more testing but pubg works fine and smooth at 90fps with battery saver+game turbo set to balanced.

    Is there something similiar for cpu?
    Unfortunately no, though drivers should have better CPU management as well but if Games will be on OpenGL then there is nothing we can do.
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    905mhz config you posted + battery performance mode beats S21 Ultra on MIUI 13.0.2View attachment 5607407
    Here is latest 905MHz though it low we get now 785-828K on Custom ROMs.
    GPU is between 310/315-325K.
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    Here is latest 905MHz though it low we get now 785-828K on Custom ROMs.
    GPU is between 310/315-325K.
    Thanks for the config.. I didn't want to mess around with Custom ROMs (i'm new to this kind of stuff so i don't know if it's worth to go for it). It's impressive how much it improves on custom ROMs, just shows how MIUI is bad imo... Applying this config and putting cpu governor to performance, got me to 744k score on ANTUTU and 5054 on WildLife.. I'm interested to try pixel experience ROM on this phone. I would also love to hear some recommendations for ROMs besides Pixel exp.
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    Thanks for the config.. I didn't want to mess around with Custom ROMs (i'm new to this kind of stuff so i don't know if it's worth to go for it). It's impressive how much it improves on custom ROMs, just shows how MIUI is bad imo... Applying this config and putting cpu governor to performance, got me to 744k score on ANTUTU and 5054 on WildLife.. I'm interested to try pixel experience ROM on this phone. I would also love to hear some recommendations for ROMs besides Pixel exp.
    Yes with new drivers v615 and 905MHz on most custom ROMs , we get.
    Wild life 5550-5780p
    Antutu 780K-310K/325K GPU to 820K
    Geekbench 5 Vulkan Compute 5800-5600
    Geekbench 5 CPU SC 920 MC 3460/3300
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    Hi
    I have Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 with Adreno 650 GPU and 8 GB LPDDR5 RAM and I used Konabess app to Overclock GPU to beat ROG Phone 5 in Vulkan performance.

    If you need anything help here is my new group on Telegram for support in Adreno GPUs and performance staff.

    Adreno GPUs & Konabess Support Group

    I used This two tables to overclock to 905-940Mhz.

    Screenshot_20211229-113236_Sheets.png

    Screenshot_20211227-145549_YouTube.png


    Adreno 660 is just overclock on Adreno 650 from Snapdragon 865.

    If you want more performance look for CAF ROMs like I did.

    I'm using Xdroid ROM with is CAF ROM.( CAF stands for the CodeAurora Forum. It is like the name says, an online forum (just like XDA, except, the forum is more for OS developers than flashmaniacs) where Qualcomm releases source codes and patches for their CPUs. Code Aurora is a kind of an initiative in which brands can release the open-source codes for SoCs(CPUs) for future software development. )


    First few technical staff in all FP32
    1000 Gigaflops = 1 Teraflops/TFLOPS

    Adreno 650 on 587 MHz has 901 Gigaflops
    Adreno 660 on 840 MHz has 1290 Gigaflops
    Adreno 650 on 905 MHz has 1390 Gigaflops
    Adreno 650 on 940 MHz has 1443 Gigaflops

    You can calculate this very easily

    Shading units 768 * freq 0.940 * 2 = 1443 Gigaflops = 1.44 TFLOPS

    Compere to home consoles last gen
    PS4 has 1.84 TFLOPS
    Xbox One S 1.4 TFLOPS
    Nintendo Switch docked is 393.2 GFLOPs and undocked 196.6 GFLOPS which uses ARM cores so it great device to compere.

    New Update looks like Adreno 650 and Adreno 660 has 768 ALU not 512 like everyone on internet says.😡
    If you want test your Gifaflops install Clpeak on Google Play Store

    Yes Xiaomi Mi 10T with 940MHz GPU OC is 10x times more powerful than Nintendo Switch.

    I overclock my Adreno 650 to 940Mhz giving me performance of SD888 with new drivers OpenGL 604 ( attachment below if you want try on 855/865/SD888 two versions)


    Performance is incredible just from driver it self. Stock freq 587 MHz gives 4230-4150 score in Wild life just like SD870.

    I used 940MHz and 905MHz on TURBO_L0 Voltage.

    You can click on any images to get closer view.


    Here is AnTuTu before overclock on stock freq 587MHz and 3Dmark Wild life
    Screenshot_20211229-114807_3DMark.pngScreenshot_20211229-114406_Photos.png


    Now here we go to 940Mhz overclock with GPU.
    AnTuTu Score beats Mi 11 and few SD 888 smartphones.
    Screenshot_20211226-182027_AnTuTu_Benchmark.pngScreenshot_20211227-203355_AnTuTu_Benchmark.png

    This is newest Otherworld kernel and 925MHz GPU and Wild life Benchmark with stress test.
    Screenshot_20220406-015139_3DMark.jpgScreenshot_20220209-184736_AnTuTu_Benchmark.jpg

    Wild life Street test
    Screenshot_20211227-233557_3DMark.pngScreenshot_20211227-233904_3DMark.png

    Here are bonus 3DMark Sling **** Extreme Unlimited and Geekbench 5 Vulkan Compute test
    Screenshot_20211225-154416_Geekbench_5.pngScreenshot_20220406-153451_3DMark.jpg


    And here are temp of Red Magic 6 series phones.


    And here is temperature of all big SD888 phones to compere.


    Here is test which show how many Watts GPU uses in 865vs888.


    Overclock to 905-940Mhz with new drivers v604 use 7W on of power without idle screen 0.8W compere to SD888 which is much higher around 1.5W.

    SD888 GfxBench Manhattan 3.1 off screen 117 fps with 8W-8.5W of power.

    Gfx Benchmark Manhattan 3.1 off screen 112-115fps with 7W
    Screenshot_20211229_122336_122656.jpg

    Screenshot_20211229_122112_122703.jpg


    Running Genshin Impact on 60fps highest gets 7.2W of power with 58fps almost lock and SD888 uses 8.5-11W to run this game.
    Screenshot 2021-12-27 174927.png

    Screenshot 2021-12-27 174912.png


    Update: Newest versions of drivers v614v2 and 615v2 recommended Via TWRP flashble drivers or possible via Magisk modules overlayfs.
    Post with drivers down below
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    This is Adreno GPU at 925MHz at 388mv and 940MHz and 404mv

    Adreno 650 at 925MHz is 2841 Gigaflops

    Snapdragon 888 with Adreno 660 at 840MHz is 2580 Gigaflops.
    New update Adreno 650 and 660 has 768 ALU not 512 like everyone on internet says.
    If you want test that out install Clpeak on Google Play store.

    Snapdragon 888 has 10% less raw GPU power than my Xiaomi Mi 10T at 925MHz.
    I made this few days ago
    Screenshot_20220209-151022_3DMark.jpgScreenshot_20220210-005913_3DMark.jpg


    Gfx benchmark Vulkan Offscreen exactly the same as SD888
    Screenshot_20220214-221009_GFXBench.jpg



    I finded sweat spot for Voltage and here are new undervolt settings to get even less heat and longer battery.

    925MH /905 at 388mv
    895Mhz Turbo Voltage 384mv
    855Mhz at 300mv vs 336mv previous OC.
    800Mhz 290mv
    670MHz 208mv
    587MHz 140mv
    You can use it with beta version of konabess



    More Vulkan benchmarks here is
    TauCeti Vulkan Technology Benchmark

    Obulus Isle benchmark
    Screenshot_20220214-214740_TauCeti_Vulkan.jpg

    Amazing GPU Frame time graph with newest Otherworld kernel.

    Snapdragon 865 at 925MHz with 70fps on average and SD870 at only 56fps.

    New Configs in attachment below.

    In additional Geekbench 5 CPU performance
    IMG_20220216_174100_991.jpg
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    Here is how to install latest drivers v615v2 and v614v2.

    Recommend is TWRP flashble drivers because of superior stability and compatibility with apps and games.

    Check free vendor space before in Temux su then df -h -a /vendor

    If you don't have enough vendor space use Systemwr zip or change ROM.

    If you don't have enough free vendor space just flash systemwr zip reboot to Android then to recovery and do everything like in guide below

    Make and backup of vendor in TWRP before.
    Backup vendor partition or super system partition.
    Mount Vendor
    -Main page select mount
    -select from list vendor and deselect "mount system parton's as read only" and then swipe to confirm
    -In setting turn off uncheck " Unmount System before installing zip"
    -Advanced -Make the system partition RW
    -flash it and done

    TWRP 100% working
    Latest skk A12 or Orange Fox


    If anyone wants latest Magisk modules drivers which are a little bit more stable but TWRP is recommend because works the best and it is stable for all apps and games / emu.
    Firstly you need overlayfs module which has to be supported by kernel. Then reboot and install drivers you want.
    V614 AoSPA and MIUI.
    V615 MIUI mostly (AOSPA possible bootlop just remove module from TWRP)
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    Could you share the konabess config txt?
    Here is 905Mhz and 940Mhz with underclock to 150Mhz with lowest voltage Retention.
    safest is 905-150MHz
    If you have problems with heat or anything else you can use 870-150Mhz.
    Should give 12 hours of SOT Normal use.
    Update Here is new configs with better battery life and performance.
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    That is sad. Idk why but on my Android 11 works fine.
    Maybe A12 has problem with compatibility.