Question Xiaomi MI 11 Ultra vs Huawei P40 PRO

[drzewoid]

Hey all,

I've question about photo quality in new firmware version. When i took first photos it looks great, very similar to P40 PRO - here are samples from both phones https://mega.nz/file/yI4TwASb#vujZkwIElbtdujE_yReCCFXiDciXZVd9u0P7U44T9fA

I don't know if was any update, but photos i took today looks more blurry and i'm not happy with results - Can You upload some sample photos from MI11 Ultra with new China firmware? Currently i think P40 PRO is better camera than MI 11 Ultra, especially in night and zoom capabilities. I wanted post samples here in forum, but there is error - files are too big.

Thanks in advance

 

[kyero985]

Hey all,

I've question about photo quality in new firmware version. When i took first photos it looks great, very similar to P40 PRO - here are samples from both phones https://mega.nz/file/yI4TwASb#vujZkwIElbtdujE_yReCCFXiDciXZVd9u0P7U44T9fA

I don't know if was any update, but photos i took today looks more blurry and i'm not happy with results - Can You upload some sample photos from MI11 Ultra with new China firmware? Currently i think P40 PRO is better camera than MI 11 Ultra, especially in night and zoom capabilities. I wanted post samples here in forum, but there is error - files are too big.

Thanks in advance

Hello,

I'm still a proud owner of my Huawei P40 Pro and bought it purely for the camera. Initially I was left very disappointed when I compared it with my MI 11 Ultra but I realized the GN2 sensor is still not optimized well enough yet so I'm staying optimistic and patient (while the P40 Pro's firmware is fully matured by now and has stopped getting camera improvements). The latest update makes it a lot better.

I've taken a range of recent shots unedited here on the latest v12.5.4 firmware whcih features a lot of camera improvements (minus low light): https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom.4263469/

 

[drzewoid]

Thanks for your reply, will you so kind and share some other photos - i saw this, but it's most buildings, and they looks fine. The problem is when i took pictures of trees, grass - looks very blurry, details have lost.

 

[Alcibiade]

Hello,

I'm still a proud owner of my Huawei P40 Pro and bought it purely for the camera. Initially I was left very disappointed when I compared it with my MI 11 Ultra but I realized the GN2 sensor is still not optimized well enough yet so I'm staying optimistic and patient (while the P40 Pro's firmware is fully matured by now and has stopped getting camera improvements). The latest update makes it a lot better.

I've taken a range of recent shots unedited here on the latest v12.5.4 firmware whcih features a lot of camera improvements (minus low light): https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom.4263469/

Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...

 

[kyero985]

Thanks for your reply, will you so kind and share some other photos - i saw this, but it's most buildings, and they looks fine. The problem is when i took pictures of trees, grass - looks very blurry, details have lost.

No problem, I will take some photos of greenery and a bit of wildlife tomorrow - I'll put these in my original thread.

 

[kyero985]

Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...

I agree, I still love my P40 Pro and it took better shots than Mi 11 Ultra in all shooting scenarios when I first tried it out. I'll go as far as to say it even takes better photos than the S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max or at least match them in most areas. At one point I was actually tempted to sell my My 11 Ultra as I got it really early and wait for the P50 Pro instead.

But I no longer have any regrets after missing Google app support for so long and the 12.5.4 update has already made things look a lot more promising and convincing of what's coming next in the future updates and I look forward to it.

 

[Alcibiade]

I agree, I still love my P40 Pro and it took better shots than Mi 11 Ultra in all shooting scenarios when I first tired it out. I'll go as far as to say I feel it takes better photos than the S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max or at least match them in most areas. At one point I was actually tempted to sell my My 11 Ultra as I got it really early and wait for the P50 Pro instead.

But I no longer have any regrets after missing Google app support for so long and the 12.5.4 update has already made things look a lot more promising and convincing of what's coming next in the next updates and I look forward to it.

Thank you for all the info.
I am rather a fan of DXO and tend to trust their benchmarks so I don't doubt 12.5.4 gets you enough quality to not regret your P40 Anyway the S21 has some real issues with noise and iOS is not my cup of tea, so it's not like I have a choice. I'll learn to enjoy my Mi 11 Ultra
Meanwhile I'll be eagerly waiting for the new firmware to arrive on the international version

 

[kyero985]

Thank you for all the info.
I am rather a fan of DXO and tend to trust their benchmarks so I don't doubt 12.5.4 gets you enough quality to not regret your P40 Anyway the S21 has some real issues with noise and iOS is not my cup of tea, so it's not like I have a choice. I'll learn to enjoy my Mi 11 Ultra
Meanwhile I'll be eagerly waiting for the new firmware to arrive on the international version

According to this source at the bottom of the page which was one of the first to report on the 12.5.4's improvements, Xiaomi will be gathering live user feedback to further improve the camera on May the 7th: https://min.news/en/tech/590f98d68b0fdbb259d5fd644b74d23c.html

I have a good feeling they're trying to do what they can do get their camera performance as strong as possible before the EU release too so hopefully another update isn't too far away again.

 

[lhubbard0]

Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...

Does the latest Xiaomi.EU rom have the camera improvement?

 

[Alcibiade]

Does the latest Xiaomi.EU rom have the camera improvement?

Yes it does. It's derived from the latest CN ROM which has it.

 

[jericho246]

Mi 11 Ultra vs P40 Pro in low light

note: I have the global Mi 11 Ultra, so no 12.5 update yet. I wonder if that update fixes the yellowish tone.

 

[Borh77]

Hello

I too come from a Huawei P40 Pro and have bought a Mi 11 Ultra. I am with MIUI 12.0.3.
This is the comparison I have made last night. I have used the stock app on both the Mi 11 Ultra and the P40 Pro, in photo mode and in night mode. I have also used GCam on the Mi11 Ultra (it does not work on the P40 Pro)

The obvious thing is that the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in photo mode is of very bad quality. I first thought that it was cinetic blur because my hand was shaky, but I have tried again with the same result. I really think it is a bug since the night mode should be enabled automatically, I hope it will be corrected soon (because it is annoying to select night mode everytime I take a picture)

By contrast the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in night mode is better in my opinion than the pictures with the P40 Pro. The pictures with the P40 Pro have a red/purple tint. And there is less details on the P40 Pro picture in photo mode and more noise on the P40 Pro in night mode.

I find the picture with Gcam on the Mi 11 Ultra interesting. There are more fine details than the stock app, I think because the sharpness algorithm is less agressive. The colors are also more vibrant. But there is less dynamic range than the stock app.

Overall I prefer the Gcam picture for now even if the stock app in night mode has a better dynamic range. I hope we will have the best of both world with MIUI 12.5 and the DxOMark improvements.


Mi 11 Ultra stock, photo mode

Mi 11 Ultra stock, night mode

P40 Pro, photo mode

P40 Pro, night mode

Mi 11 Ultra GCam

 

[jericho246]

A few more comparisons (mostly 5x zoom)


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[Deleted member 11140537]

Don't post samples before the update. It's useless.

 

[Borh77]

I had the update yesterday and honestly, I don't see so much difference. The exposure is a little higher, but I don't see anything else...
But the bug that made the night mode sometimes working automatically at night and sometimes not has been corrected I think. Now it always work.

From what I see, I still find that the Mi 11 Ultra is superior than the P40 Pro. Both are good. The most obvious difference is that the mi 11 Ultra has a yellow tint, and the P40 Pro a purple tint.
But when zooming, we can really see that the P40 Pro denoising and sharpening algorithms are too agressive and loose a lot of details compared to the mi11 Ultra.


before the update

after the update

P40 Pro

 

[JazonX]

The hassle of Google keeps me away from Huawei !
If they got that part fixed, I guess They'd rule the world of smartphones.

 

[Borh77]

The update was the 12.5.3. I was told that the DxOMark update is the 12.5.4 so it is logical that I don't see much difference.
But even with the 12.5.3, I already find that the mi 11 Ultra is superior to the P40 Pro
We'll see the difference when I have the 12.5.4

 

[rowihel2012]

Hello

I too come from a Huawei P40 Pro and have bought a Mi 11 Ultra. I am with MIUI 12.0.3.
This is the comparison I have made last night. I have used the stock app on both the Mi 11 Ultra and the P40 Pro, in photo mode and in night mode. I have also used GCam on the Mi11 Ultra (it does not work on the P40 Pro)

The obvious thing is that the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in photo mode is of very bad quality. I first thought that it was cinetic blur because my hand was shaky, but I have tried again with the same result. I really think it is a bug since the night mode should be enabled automatically, I hope it will be corrected soon (because it is annoying to select night mode everytime I take a picture)

By contrast the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in night mode is better in my opinion than the pictures with the P40 Pro. The pictures with the P40 Pro have a red/purple tint. And there is less details on the P40 Pro picture in photo mode and more noise on the P40 Pro in night mode.

I find the picture with Gcam on the Mi 11 Ultra interesting. There are more fine details than the stock app, I think because the sharpness algorithm is less agressive. The colors are also more vibrant. But there is less dynamic range than the stock app.

Overall I prefer the Gcam picture for now even if the stock app in night mode has a better dynamic range. I hope we will have the best of both world with MIUI 12.5 and the DxOMark improvements.


Mi 11 Ultra stock, photo mode

Mi 11 Ultra stock, night mode

P40 Pro, photo mode

P40 Pro, night mode

Mi 11 Ultra GCam

Which g am version did you use ?

 

[Borh77]

Which g am version did you use ?

This one

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