[Xperia T] 9.1.A.1.145 CERTIFIED

qubbus

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I just want to say the same thing.
There is always between 300 and 400 MBs of free memory, no matter how many apps I have installed.
Debloating stock ROMs made much more sense with 2011 line of Xperias, because these really struggled with memory, but now, I don't really see much benefits from removing such a huge amount of apps from your phone.
One more thing is, when you remove so many stock apps, and replace them with market ones, there is absolute inconsistency in user interface, with every app having its own interface. It feels fragmented too much, regarding UI.
I can't agree with you, I noticed faster booting up when phone is off. System UI works smoother. Everyone has own opinion. IMO deintergating phone from facebook, twitter and other social stuff is very big benefit for me.
I have more than one e-mail account, so I repleaced exchange and Gmail with [email protected] pro.
Also removing old apps from system/app dir and repleaced by newer from market have benefits such as free space ;).
I put this list for information. Removing these apps from system directory is safe and your X will boot up.
I did not noticed any incosistancy in user interface. E.g Walkman is black, Rocket Player also is in black/dark theme, little music panel on lockscreen works too with RP!
I removed walkman because it is verry buggy.
Removing unwanted colors, themes - also for free space ;) I don't want it, so removed, I don't use asia keyboard, stock video player, lost ota updates of firmware because of CWM, why the heck I should keep them in my phone?
My X have locked bootloader, custom firmwares with stock kernel are too much customized. So if I cannot get cyanogenmod, then I do experiments on my own FW.
 

adiq_ambro

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Don't forget that by removing apps you don't only save up memory. Many apps (especially Facebook) just runs their services in background wasting battery and CPU cycles.
Why keep them if you don't need them?
 

mr_torture

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I can't agree with you, I noticed faster booting up when phone is off. System UI works smoother. Everyone has own opinion.
Ofcourse everyone is having personal preferences, and expectations.
Yes, removing social media apps from phone is giving some fresh air to system resources, as well as some unneeded background invisible apps.
I'm just saying difference before and after, is much more noticable with old phones, in this case older Xperias from 2011.
I also debloated my Arc S every time I get back to stock ROMs, but mostly because I was "forced" to do it.
On the other side, when you think about it, after you remove Maps, YouTube, Fb, Timescape, Email, etc, what makes your phone so "smart" then?

To conclude, with 2011 Xperias, there wasn't much of a choice, but removing a lot of apps, needed or less needed ones.
With this phone, I will rather keep some apps which I will need sooner or later (especially SONY/Xperia specific apps), and deal with a bit slower performance, than remove them and kill that "charm" that's differentiating my phone from any other Android phone out there.
There is a reason why I'm using XPERIA branded phone, and not some galaxy, or butterfly, or optimus, etc...
 

peetr_

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And why do you have old Maps, YouTube, Fb in system, when you have new duplicate apps in data?
And what is it good for, to have 300MB free RAM (btw it is not true value, it's free + cached + it gets fragmented, so whole free ram cannot be used + part of this "free" ram must remain free, etc.), when you start some heavier app and 200MB is away + all cached apps are gone and some services are killed?
Do you still think that this device has enough RAM for Android and new apps?
Poor James Bond...
 

qubbus

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Ofcourse everyone is having personal preferences, and expectations.
Yes, removing social media apps from phone is giving some fresh air to system resources, as well as some unneeded background invisible apps.
I'm just saying difference before and after, is much more noticable with old phones, in this case older Xperias from 2011.
I also debloated my Arc S every time I get back to stock ROMs, but mostly because I was "forced" to do it.
On the other side, when you think about it, after you remove Maps, YouTube, Fb, Timescape, Email, etc, what makes your phone so "smart" then?
I have all I need to feel "smart" of my XPERIA. Got maps, navigation, email, internet browser and other smart stuff like youtube, IM, media players. But for me some stock apps ain't good enough to keep them. I used to have other devices with Android (pure and not pure such as touchwizz). I collected my favorited apps which I like :)



And why do you have old Maps, YouTube, Fb in system, when you have new duplicate apps in data?
And what is it good for, to have 300MB free RAM (btw it is not true value, it's free + cached + it gets fragmented, so whole free ram cannot be used + part of this "free" ram must remain free, etc.), when you start some heavier app and 200MB is away + all cached apps are gone and some services are killed?
Do you still think that this device has enough RAM for Android and new apps?
Poor James Bond...
Old system apps are "overwrite" by newer from market. But you cannot completely remove them, you could only remove updates and all system apps (old ones) remains in system/app directory which is protected and if you ain't got root permissions you can do nothing with them, just disable.
300MB free of RAM is easy to get even if you have much apps installed. And it is obvious that system task manager will kill apps when there will not be available free RAM.
RAM gets fragmented???? :eek:
 

peetr_

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But he was talking about removing system apps with root permissions, wasn't he?
But that is what I am writing here 300MB "free" is not enough. Who wants "minimized" apps to be killed?
Yes, RAM gets fragmented.
 

qubbus

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Can I put the FTF in my Xperia TL? I dont Care the 4G.

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Of course you can, but expect some brick later ;)
You can even put aluminium foil to your microwave oven and microwave it;)

:laugh:

Thruth is that putting wrong FW to your device will brick your phone.
 

TiMiN8R

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Of course you can, but expect some brick later ;)
You can even put aluminium foil to your microwave oven and microwave it;)

:laugh:

Thruth is that putting wrong FW to your device will brick your phone.
Truth is that TL is the same phone and using a T ftf will not brick it. You can exclude baseband in Flashtool.

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qubbus

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Truth is that TL is the same phone and using a T ftf will not brick it. You can exclude baseband in Flashtool.

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Yeah, simmilar device.
My answer was little much about this part "can I....?" > Of course you can ;)