Xperia Z vs HTC One Complete Video Comparison (Full HD)

[doministry]

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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.

Today I perfectly understood how Sony contrast control works across the device.
Now I can confirm the UI is less saturated just for batt saving.

I just made a screenshot. And the homescreen looks totally different in the gallery than in original.
Skocking difference.

So the "washed out" thing is just a bullshi..t. You just didn't even notice it in your "review".

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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.

I'm trying to give you feedback, I couldn't care less if you like or don't like this device. But what I don't like is biased opinions and false statements in a comparison. Obviously you can have your own opinion and you might not like it but you should try to be impartial when comparing/reviewing units. All this is IMHO and with the aim to help you.

Again, I don't think the XZ is a better phone than the HTC one or the S4, they are newer phones with better processor and better screen. But XZ was the first flagship to be released, so the more time you have to release a device the more time you have to improve it.

For me, I picked the XZ because It's the phone that ticked all the boxes for me. Quad core, 2gb RAM, full hd screen, sd card slot. That's pretty much all I cared about and it does it well in all of them. Maybe on screen battery time is not the best but it's still better than my lg o2x.

At the end of the day if I didn't like the phone I could just return it and get the HTC one or the S4. ^^. But I do like it and I'm sure there is a lot of people that does too.

Edit: let me show you what I mean about the ui. This is a screenshoot of a black image with the soft keys, can you see how the soft key are grey? That can give the impression that the screen is washed out because of the soft keys

The UI has lowered saturation/contrast. Everything changes drastically when you watch a photo, movie etc.
Than it looks super sharp and dense as amoleds. That's the reason of the confusion. Just found it out.

 

[zodiac100]

Jeezz, seriously though the screen on the XZ is pure sh*t. Its almost painful to look at.

Keep telling yourself that. Delusion isn't really a rare phenomenon.
The reality on the ground is the Zs a smash hit selling very very well indeed while the critically acclaimed htc one is struggling to get off the ground never mind make any sort of impression on the market place.
For such a poor poor phone with a God awful display, millions of people still seem to have fallen in love with it.
All we've seen this year is the tech community coming together to rally behind a much loved manufacturer on the brink of bankruptcy.
The result has been one of the most over hyped phones the world has ever known.
Only a month ago we were being told that htc had revolutionized the smartphone camera only to be finally confronted with cheap nonsense.
The game is up, the plan has failed.
Commercially the Z has more than surpassed Sony's expectations while the HTC One as I said looks like it's even struggling more than the One X did.
It gets even worse for the phone because it has only about a month and a half left to make an impression on the market place. Rumors of snapdragon 800 devices coming in H2 will surely stop many potential consumers buying H1 devices in the coming months. Add to that the impending tsunami that is Honami, and you can quite easily see the HTC One being a commercial flop. It's window of opportunity is narrowing by the day.
Attack the Z all you want. It's more than achieved it's goal. Your mumblings are immaterial. The story of the Sony Xperia Z is a very happy happy one for Sony.

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[doministry]

HTC lost the plot some time ago, it's pain to watch since I was always wishing them well.
But HTC HD2 times are gone.... Strange.

 

[ashwin123]

Keep telling yourself that. Delusion isn't really a rare phenomenon.
The reality on the ground is the Zs a smash hit selling very very well indeed while the critically acclaimed htc one is struggling to get off the ground never mind make any sort of impression on the market place.
For such a poor poor phone with a God awful display, millions of people still seem to have fallen in love with it.
All we've seen this year is the tech community coming together to rally behind a much loved manufacturer on the brink of bankruptcy.
The result has been one of the most over hyped phones the world has ever known.
Only a month ago we were being told that htc had revolutionized the smartphone camera only to be finally confronted with cheap nonsense.
The game is up, the plan has failed.
Commercially the Z has more than surpassed Sony's expectations while the HTC One as I said looks like it's even struggling more than the One X did.
It gets even worse for the phone because it has only about a month and a half left to make an impression on the market place. Rumors of snapdragon 800 devices coming in H2 will surely stop many potential consumers buying H1 devices in the coming months. Add to that the impending tsunami that is Honami, and you can quite easily see the HTC One being a commercial flop. It's window of opportunity is narrowing by the day.
Attack the Z all you want. It's more than achieved it's goal. Your mumblings are immaterial. The story of the Sony Xperia Z is a very happy happy one for Sony.

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If sony outsells the one its cuz of 2 reasons 1. marketing - as a YouTuber every other ad I see on my video is Sony's HTC on the other hand, to use your words, is a company near bankruptcy... 2. HTC One has had production delays, no site has had them in stock for more than a few days even biggies like Handtec UK (biggie as in one of the top sites that offer international shipping) have loads of preorders... And wow outselling a phone that wasnt even on sale, a company that wasnt able to fulfill orders made weeks if not months ago with sony's marketing might and with 0 current gen competition... till the s4's release it was the only 1080p device available (not counting the butterfly/droid dna due to obvious reasons) wow thats a win!!!

As for viewing it in the gallery, well you guys dont know your own phones do you? the Mobile Bravia Engine 2 kicks in only while watching videos/viewing a pic in the gallery... and even then the viewing angle issues still are present...

and ya honami... multiple flagships a year - wow even after watching HTC make that mistake and fail miserably due to dilution you rally behind a company that does it?

The Galaxy S line and the iPhone outsell everything still samsung and apple stick to a 1 flagship a year (yup samsung released 100's of galaxy crap devices which am not talking about) dont u even see a pattern there? c'mon it isnt rocket science

 

[zodiac100]

If sony outsells the one its cuz of 2 reasons 1. marketing - as a YouTuber every other ad I see on my video is Sony's HTC on the other hand, to use your words, is a company near bankruptcy... 2. HTC One has had production delays, no site has had them in stock for more than a few days even biggies like Handtec UK (biggie as in one of the top sites that offer international shipping) have loads of preorders... And wow outselling a phone that wasnt even on sale, a company that wasnt able to fulfill orders made weeks if not months ago with sony's marketing might and with 0 current gen competition... till the s4's release it was the only 1080p device available (not counting the butterfly/droid dna due to obvious reasons) wow thats a win!!!

As for viewing it in the gallery, well you guys dont know your own phones do you? the Mobile Bravia Engine 2 kicks in only while watching videos/viewing a pic in the gallery... and even then the viewing angle issues still are present...

and ya honami... multiple flagships a year - wow even after watching HTC make that mistake and fail miserably due to dilution you rally behind a company that does it?

The Galaxy S line and the iPhone outsell everything still samsung and apple stick to a 1 flagship a year (yup samsung released 100's of galaxy crap devices which am not talking about) dont u even see a pattern there? c'mon it isnt rocket science

Now that's exactly the delusion I was talking about.
I said in my post that they were even struggling to get off the ground never mind anything else.
It's all part of it. Who's fault is it that they couldn't get the device in stores competently. They bit off more than they could chew. A plan that failed! Even a large proportion of the devices that made it in store were defective in some way or another. Mostly build equality issues.
One of the reasons why there has been such shortages. With such a high returns rate, you can't be surprised that it's hard to find the phone in stock anywhere for a sustained period. So many devices shipped but they've gone to a small number of people which each person going through one phone after another until they find one they can live with.
Who's to blame for all this? HTC, a plan that failed. You're talking nonsense! The htc One was unveiled before the Z went on sale, if people wanted it, they could have skipped the Z and pre-ordered the One and waited for delivery.
They didn't, the chose the Z. Take it like a man and stop hiding behind pathetic excuses.
HTC, to put it simply, bit off more than it could chew and is paying the price for it. An all aluminium casing, who's bright idea was that?
A 4mp camera, who's eureka moment what that?
In my opinion, the latter is the consequence of the former.
They decided to go with an aluminum casing which obviously pushed up the unit cost of production and so to keep retail prices in line, they compensated by throwing in a cheap camera and started with all this ultrapixel low light bull **** as a diversionary tactic. Marketing nonsense!
I don't ever recall there being a clamour for improved low light performance. We've got to the point where you've got tech reviews taking pictures in the dark just to show this off.
You know what I say to all that " Switch On The Damn Lights You Fools!!!". I can't imagine there being that many situations where you'll need to take pictures indoors without there being any lights available. Maybe in the nightclubs but that's it. To compromise on good light performance to have the option of taking better night club pictures seems a very silly and juvenile thing to do.
I put the htc One in the same category as the Xperia play. Misguided phones. Phones that could only really appeal to the more immature amongst us. The Xperia play with its slide out joy pad and the htc one with its boomsound crap and night club camera. Phones for teenagers and the very immature. Trouble is, there aren't that many teenagers who can afford the prices of such devices. The Xperia play was a failure and so too the htc one will prove to be.

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[ashwin123]

Now that's exactly the delusion I was talking about.
I said in my post that they were even struggling to get off the ground never mind anything else.
It's all part of it. Who's fault is it that they couldn't get the device in stores competently. They bit off more than they could chew. A plan that failed! Even a large proportion of the devices that made it in store were defective in some way or another. Mostly build equality issues.
One of the reasons why there has been such shortages. With such a high returns rate, you can't be surprised that it's hard to find the phone in stock anywhere for a sustained period. So many devices shipped but they've gone to a small number of people which each person going through one phone after another until they find one they can live with.
Who's to blame for all this? HTC, a plan that failed. You're talking nonsense! The htc One was unveiled before the Z went on sale, if people wanted it, they could have skipped the Z and pre-ordered the One and waited for delivery.
They didn't, the chose the Z. Take it like a man and stop hiding behind pathetic excuses.
HTC, to put it simply, bit off more than it could chew and is paying the price for it. An all aluminium casing, who's bright idea was that?
A 4mp camera, who's eureka moment what that?
In my opinion, the latter is the consequence of the former.
They decided to go with an aluminum casing which obviously pushed up the unit cost of production and so to keep retail prices in line, they compensated by throwing in a cheap camera and started with all this ultrapixel low light bull **** as a diversionary tactic. Marketing nonsense!
I don't ever recall there being a clamour for improved low light performance. We've got to the point where you've got tech reviews taking pictures in the dark just to show this off.
You know what I say to all that " Switch On The Damn Lights You Fools!!!". I can't imagine there being that many situations where you'll need to take pictures indoors without there being any lights available. Maybe in the nightclubs but that's it. To compromise on good light performance to have the option of taking better night club pictures seems a very silly and juvenile thing to do.
I put the htc One in the same category as the Xperia play. Misguided phones. Phones that could only really appeal to the more immature amongst us. The Xperia play with its slide out joy pad and the htc one with its boomsound crap and night club camera. Phones for teenagers and the very immature. Trouble is, there aren't that many teenagers who can afford the prices of such devices. The Xperia play was a failure and so too the htc one will prove to be.

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Wow! this started with me saying the Xperia Z's screen & speakers weren't good... Is the HTC One having quality issues, yup... (if I were a fanboy I wouldnt be saying this) but my own device has been sent back...

Ill give you the following...

- Yup HTC seems to have QC issues (I wasnt aware at the time of making the video since nothing major was reported but when returning my own I started noticing some ppl have reported issues) - Sony doesnt
- HTC and only HTC is responsible for the One's delays - Sony has stock and better supply
- The camera on the XZ is better, lets have it... I said I prefer the One's camera and that doesnt mean I said its better and Ive said multiple times from the 1st page that the XZ performs better in lights... I have no idea why u keep going back to the cam

What I disagree on is...

- HTC One or no HTC One, for the price I (and you all) paid we deserve a screen with better viewing angles (irrespective of whether u use it straight at most times or not) How do u expect me to do a comparison where I dont point that out?
- Same thing with speakers... I did mention it was because of water proofing... I believe the ear piece is more important to a phone than waterproofing...
if you arent going to buy into the the whole a lower resolution camera for better low light performance argument then how come you are buying into lower ear piece output for waterproofing? if you are going to scream Switch on the Damn Light you fools, why cant a HTC One user scream back Keep your damn phone out of water you Fool? am not trying to insult, I really am not... I just dont get it... Both phones have a tradeoff "a feature not all will use" for "something all will use"... you get so annoyed at one while you support the other... how is that not biased?

 

[barondebxl]

Keep telling yourself that. Delusion isn't really a rare phenomenon.
The reality on the ground is the Zs a smash hit selling very very well indeed while the critically acclaimed htc one is struggling to get off the ground never mind make any sort of impression on the market place.
For such a poor poor phone with a God awful display, millions of people still seem to have fallen in love with it.
All we've seen this year is the tech community coming together to rally behind a much loved manufacturer on the brink of bankruptcy.
The result has been one of the most over hyped phones the world has ever known.
Only a month ago we were being told that htc had revolutionized the smartphone camera only to be finally confronted with cheap nonsense.
The game is up, the plan has failed.
Commercially the Z has more than surpassed Sony's expectations while the HTC One as I said looks like it's even struggling more than the One X did.
It gets even worse for the phone because it has only about a month and a half left to make an impression on the market place. Rumors of snapdragon 800 devices coming in H2 will surely stop many potential consumers buying H1 devices in the coming months. Add to that the impending tsunami that is Honami, and you can quite easily see the HTC One being a commercial flop. It's window of opportunity is narrowing by the day.
Attack the Z all you want. It's more than achieved it's goal. Your mumblings are immaterial. The story of the Sony Xperia Z is a very happy happy one for Sony.

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I laughed so hard ( im not kidding nor trolling). Haven't you noticed that since the HTC One and S4 have been released, the Xperia Z became an after thought?

And why are you comparing it with the One? Im a samsung guy i could care less you bashing HTC. But in all honesty, the HTC One is an all around better device than the Xperia Z. I have some time to kill so here we go:

The HTC One is/has:

- A better display ( even the One X has a better display than the Xperia Z)
- Faster, better SoC
- Arguably a better design ( never have i seen a phone getting so much praise for its design and build, to the point that it becomes annoying)
- Faster UI
- Better sound quality ( amazing speakers vs you know)
- Better low light performance in camera

You bark about millions of folks falling in love with the display? Dont make a fool out of yourself, every review that i saw/read say that the display on this thing is a let down because of the washed out screen, sharpness is good. Im sure if you could trade for the HTC One display you would do it in a heartbeat. Get out of here, you're grounded. Call me when the XZ sells more than the Galaxy S 4.

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Now that's exactly the delusion I was talking about.
I said in my post that they were even struggling to get off the ground never mind anything else.
It's all part of it. Who's fault is it that they couldn't get the device in stores competently. They bit off more than they could chew. A plan that failed! Even a large proportion of the devices that made it in store were defective in some way or another. Mostly build equality issues.
One of the reasons why there has been such shortages. With such a high returns rate, you can't be surprised that it's hard to find the phone in stock anywhere for a sustained period. So many devices shipped but they've gone to a small number of people which each person going through one phone after another until they find one they can live with.
Who's to blame for all this? HTC, a plan that failed. You're talking nonsense! The htc One was unveiled before the Z went on sale, if people wanted it, they could have skipped the Z and pre-ordered the One and waited for delivery.
They didn't, the chose the Z. Take it like a man and stop hiding behind pathetic excuses.
HTC, to put it simply, bit off more than it could chew and is paying the price for it. An all aluminium casing, who's bright idea was that?
A 4mp camera, who's eureka moment what that?
In my opinion, the latter is the consequence of the former.
They decided to go with an aluminum casing which obviously pushed up the unit cost of production and so to keep retail prices in line, they compensated by throwing in a cheap camera and started with all this ultrapixel low light bull **** as a diversionary tactic. Marketing nonsense!
I don't ever recall there being a clamour for improved low light performance. We've got to the point where you've got tech reviews taking pictures in the dark just to show this off.
You know what I say to all that " Switch On The Damn Lights You Fools!!!". I can't imagine there being that many situations where you'll need to take pictures indoors without there being any lights available. Maybe in the nightclubs but that's it. To compromise on good light performance to have the option of taking better night club pictures seems a very silly and juvenile thing to do.
I put the htc One in the same category as the Xperia play. Misguided phones. Phones that could only really appeal to the more immature amongst us. The Xperia play with its slide out joy pad and the htc one with its boomsound crap and night club camera. Phones for teenagers and the very immature. Trouble is, there aren't that many teenagers who can afford the prices of such devices. The Xperia play was a failure and so too the htc one will prove to be.

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The HTC One has received praises all over the tech world. And you comparing it with the Xperia play? ...... Now you sound desperate.

 

[sdhanush1]

I laughed so hard ( im not kidding nor trolling). Haven't you noticed that since the HTC One and S4 have been released, the Xperia Z became an after thought?

And why are you comparing it with the One? Im a samsung guy i could care less you bashing HTC. But in all honesty, the HTC One is an all around better device than the Xperia Z. I have some time to kill so here we go:

The HTC One is/has:

- A better display ( even the One X has a better display than the Xperia Z)
- Faster, better SoC
- Arguably a better design ( never have i seen a phone getting so much praise for its design and build, to the point that it becomes annoying)
- Faster UI
- Better sound quality ( amazing speakers vs you know)
- Better low light performance in camera

You bark about millions of folks falling in love with the display? Dont make a fool out of yourself, every review that i saw/read say that the display on this thing is a let down because of the washed out screen, sharpness is good. Im sure if you could trade for the HTC One display you would do it in a heartbeat. Get out of here, you're grounded. Call me when the XZ sells more than the Galaxy S 4.

The HTC One has received praises all over the tech world. And you comparing it with the Xperia play? ...... Now you sound desperate.

First, you do know why it has a better Soc right? Damn sake when xperia Z got released to the market there weren't S600 chipsets... HTC had the benefit of including those as they went onto production late...

Display- I don't even know from where to start, viewing angles fine for me.. My friends and I usually watch videos together and no one complained. This issue is blown out of proportion IMO. And not much people have complained who own the phone themselves.. Not even considering those so called "reviews"

Design- That is personal preference... Some people hate it some people love it.. And people don't but a phone because of its aluminium unibody alone.

Faster UI- Seriously? Sense ui is faster than Sony's? I'm considering not to take you seriously at all.

Better sound quality- The speakers on Sony's are not very loud as the HTC's I accept but I don't want to talk about the "amazing speakers" enhanced by the some crap called as BeatsAudio..

Camera- I don't have much to say in these... I don't care about low light performance.. If u want better camera's go for the Lumia's. And said that, the ultrapixel thingy has received whole lot of flak than praise.

Maybe we should have a poll how many would trade their Z's in a heartbeat for the One.. Would be interesting.

HTC one has received "praises all over the tech world" All over? Seriously?
Now you are just making things up.

Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

 

[barondebxl]

First, you do know why it has a better Soc right? Damn sake when xperia Z got released to the market there weren't S600 chipsets... HTC had the benefit of including those as they went onto production late...

Display- I don't even know from where to start, viewing angles fine for me.. My friends and I usually watch videos together and no one complained. This issue is blown out of proportion IMO. And not much people have complained who own the phone themselves.. Not even considering those so called "reviews"

Design- That is personal preference... Some people hate it some people love it.. And people don't but a phone because of its aluminium unibody alone.

Faster UI- Seriously? Sense ui is faster than Sony's? I'm considering not to take you seriously at all.

Better sound quality- The speakers on Sony's are not very loud as the HTC's I accept but I don't want to talk about the "amazing speakers" enhanced by the some crap called as BeatsAudio..

Camera- I don't have much to say in these... I don't care about low light performance.. If u want better camera's go for the Lumia's. And said that, the ultrapixel thingy has received whole lot of flak than praise.

Maybe we should have a poll how many would trade their Z's in a heartbeat for the One.. Would be interesting.

HTC one has received "praises all over the tech world" All over? Seriously?
Now you are just making things up.

Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

The only people that are fine and dont admit that the Xperia Z screen is washed out are you guys, the fanboys. Stop thinking with your emotions and use your brains and eyes.

If you enjoy a crappy washed out display then good for you. It certainly not blown out of proportion. Its because you're not comparing it with another phone thats why you're satisfied. Put it next to the S4, the One, the LG optimus G pro or Oppo find 5 and you will be disappointed in your phone's screen.

Sony UI is faster than sense 5? Prove it.

Yes the S600 came after and HTC has the benefit of coming after the XZ but it has a better SoC nonetheless no?

 

[sdhanush1]

The only people that are fine and dont admit that the Xperia Z screen is washed out are you guys, the fanboys. Stop thinking with your emotions and use your brains and eyes.

If you enjoy a crappy washed out display then good for you. It certainly not blown out of proportion. Its because you're not comparing it with another phone thats why you're satisfied. Put it next to the S4, the One, the LG optimus G pro or Oppo find 5 and you will be disappointed in your phone's screen.

Sony UI is faster than sense 5? Prove it.

Yes the S600 came after and HTC has the benefit of coming after the XZ but it has a better SoC nonetheless no?

My first owned Sony phone coming from a Nexus... Kinda sick of the saturated amoled's... Definitely not a fanboy... First I look at my phone straight... Yes straight... Viewing angles are good from this point... Second, if I tilt the phone also the colours are not too washed out and look decent too... I don't know from where did this all start.. I was sceptical before buying the phone and reading reviews about the display but after I bought it I'm thinking twice to believe to so called reviews... It is indeed blown out of proportion.. Or maybe I'm blind so I'm not able to find it out.. My apologies for that.

Maybe u can prove how Sony is slow.. Works right?

If Sony had released it later too it would also have the S600 Soc... But dumb Sony released it early and sold millions of units.. And in real life performance there is not much difference expect battery life.

I would like to add this here, the one got a rating of 1/10 in ifixit.com. Any replacement to be done you have have take the phone out separately.. Even replacing the screen is difficult.. Talk about build quality.


Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

 

[barondebxl]

My first owned Sony phone coming from a Nexus... Kinda sick of the saturated amoled's... Definitely not a fanboy... First I look at my phone straight... Yes straight... Viewing angles are good from this point... Second, if I tilt the phone also the colours are not too washed out and look decent too... I don't know from where did this all start.. I was sceptical before buying the phone and reading reviews about the display but after I bought it I'm thinking twice to believe to so called reviews... It is indeed blown out of proportion.. Or maybe I'm blind so I'm not able to find it out.. My apologies for that.

Maybe u can prove how Sony is slow.. Works right?

If Sony had released it later too it would also have the S600 Soc... But dumb Sony released it early and sold millions of units.. And in real life performance there is not much difference expect battery life.

I would like to add this here, the one got a rating of 1/10 in ifixit.com. Any replacement to be done you have have take the phone out separately.. Even replacing the screen is difficult.. Talk about build quality.


Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

Who said the XZ is slow? Not me. I said the One is faster.

Even looking at the phone straight it is washed out. Watch this video, it does not lie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGYpo4_afI

 

[sdhanush1]

Who said the XZ is slow? Not me. I said the One is faster.

Even looking at the phone straight it is washed out. Watch this video, it does not lie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGYpo4_afI

Oh yeah... The blacks are not blacks in that video.. Sucks for Sony.. Haven't notice that earlier with chrome just did now... I hope it can be fixed with s/w as the Xperia doesn't have bad h/w at all. And I don't get the haze thing he said... Maybe of the different panels.. Sony should up their QC

Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

 

[barondebxl]

Oh yeah... The blacks are not blacks in that video.. Sucks for Sony.. Haven't notice that earlier with chrome just did now... I hope it can be fixed with s/w as the Xperia doesn't have bad h/w at all. And I don't get the haze thing he said... Maybe of the different panels.. Sony should up their QC

Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

The Haze thing is that white shade, kinda like white smoke thats on the screen. I may sound like a Xperia Z hater but im not. I love the design and the UI of the phone and probably would have bought but i cannot stand this screen.

 

[ashwin123]

My first owned Sony phone coming from a Nexus... Kinda sick of the saturated amoled's... Definitely not a fanboy... First I look at my phone straight... Yes straight... Viewing angles are good from this point... Second, if I tilt the phone also the colours are not too washed out and look decent too... I don't know from where did this all start.. I was sceptical before buying the phone and reading reviews about the display but after I bought it I'm thinking twice to believe to so called reviews... It is indeed blown out of proportion.. Or maybe I'm blind so I'm not able to find it out.. My apologies for that.

Maybe u can prove how Sony is slow.. Works right?

If Sony had released it later too it would also have the S600 Soc... But dumb Sony released it early and sold millions of units.. And in real life performance there is not much difference expect battery life.

I would like to add this here, the one got a rating of 1/10 in ifixit.com. Any replacement to be done you have have take the phone out separately.. Even replacing the screen is difficult.. Talk about build quality.


Sent from my awesome Xperia Z

Who cares about replacement... any issue, send it in, if its diff to replace, hell its htc's problem not mine...

U really are grasping at straws here, arent u?

And the whole I look at my phone straight takes me back to a certain manufacturer wanting ppl to hold their phones a certain way... we all know how that turned out dont we?

"Second, if I tilt the phone also the colours are not too washed out and look decent too... "
Therein lies the answer, when I pay top dollar for a device, I dont want "decent" or "not too washed out" I want "awesome" and "no washout"

Anyway noone said the display is unusable, the conversation here started because I said the xz has bad viewing angles and sub par speakers... maybe it doenst matter to you but thats fact...

 

[pandaball]

All that is going on here is a clash between very subjective things, and twisting of not-so-subjective things.

If you look at design, the XZ and the One have very distinct designs that are both very good. Truth be told, I liked the One's design a lot. It felt a lot better in the hand than the XZ. Perhaps it was the aluminium. However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's not much point arguing over this if it all boils down to personal preference. Same goes for things like UI, sound quality etc. To each his own.

However, when things like bad viewing angles crop up, I always have this question: What use case is there for good viewing angles? Who uses their phones at >35 degree angles? Why is this even an issue? Does it really matter if the colours are off if I view my phone at an angle (assuming I even do)? IMO, what matters is viewing it head-on, and the screen is reasonably bright, sharp and accurate. That's really all that anyone should care for, unless there's a really good reason why viewing angles matter.

Another thing about the speakers: this is personal preference here but I never, ever use the speakers for anything other than notifications and ringtones. It isn't bad by any means in quiet environments, but it is soft. In noisy-ish places it gets difficult to hear anything. However I guess tradeoffs are tradeoffs, and it depends whether one prefers waterproof or not.

Finally, everything above illustrates my last point, which is that reviews are subjective. Even when I was blabbering about subjective and not-so-subjective things, there's always an element of personal preference. Any review is always biased because the reviewer will always have his own preferences of things. The only way for bias to be eliminated is either the phone is so darn good that there is universal appreciation for it, or the phone is so crappy that it is universally despised. To date, no such thing. The past 4 pages of arguing and nonsense still boil down to personal preference, full stop. HTC One is better? Go for it. XZ is awesome? Break a leg. It's up to you. Continuing any of these arguments is pointless and a waste of time, because no one here is willing to change their points of view.

 

[ashwin123]

All that is going on here is a clash between very subjective things, and twisting of not-so-subjective things.

If you look at design, the XZ and the One have very distinct designs that are both very good. Truth be told, I liked the One's design a lot. It felt a lot better in the hand than the XZ. Perhaps it was the aluminium. However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's not much point arguing over this if it all boils down to personal preference. Same goes for things like UI, sound quality etc. To each his own.

However, when things like bad viewing angles crop up, I always have this question: What use case is there for good viewing angles? Who uses their phones at >35 degree angles? Why is this even an issue? Does it really matter if the colours are off if I view my phone at an angle (assuming I even do)? IMO, what matters is viewing it head-on, and the screen is reasonably bright, sharp and accurate. That's really all that anyone should care for, unless there's a really good reason why viewing angles matter.

Another thing about the speakers: this is personal preference here but I never, ever use the speakers for anything other than notifications and ringtones. It isn't bad by any means in quiet environments, but it is soft. In noisy-ish places it gets difficult to hear anything. However I guess tradeoffs are tradeoffs, and it depends whether one prefers waterproof or not.

Finally, everything above illustrates my last point, which is that reviews are subjective. Even when I was blabbering about subjective and not-so-subjective things, there's always an element of personal preference. Any review is always biased because the reviewer will always have his own preferences of things. The only way for bias to be eliminated is either the phone is so darn good that there is universal appreciation for it, or the phone is so crappy that it is universally despised. To date, no such thing. The past 4 pages of arguing and nonsense still boil down to personal preference, full stop. HTC One is better? Go for it. XZ is awesome? Break a leg. It's up to you. Continuing any of these arguments is pointless and a waste of time, because no one here is willing to change their points of view.

Fair enough (I dont accept your 35degree argument tho but still fair enough) am out (until someone starts up again )

Ash

 

[barondebxl]

All that is going on here is a clash between very subjective things, and twisting of not-so-subjective things.

If you look at design, the XZ and the One have very distinct designs that are both very good. Truth be told, I liked the One's design a lot. It felt a lot better in the hand than the XZ. Perhaps it was the aluminium. However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's not much point arguing over this if it all boils down to personal preference. Same goes for things like UI, sound quality etc. To each his own.

However, when things like bad viewing angles crop up, I always have this question: What use case is there for good viewing angles? Who uses their phones at >35 degree angles? Why is this even an issue? Does it really matter if the colours are off if I view my phone at an angle (assuming I even do)? IMO, what matters is viewing it head-on, and the screen is reasonably bright, sharp and accurate. That's really all that anyone should care for, unless there's a really good reason why viewing angles matter.

Another thing about the speakers: this is personal preference here but I never, ever use the speakers for anything other than notifications and ringtones. It isn't bad by any means in quiet environments, but it is soft. In noisy-ish places it gets difficult to hear anything. However I guess tradeoffs are tradeoffs, and it depends whether one prefers waterproof or not.

Finally, everything above illustrates my last point, which is that reviews are subjective. Even when I was blabbering about subjective and not-so-subjective things, there's always an element of personal preference. Any review is always biased because the reviewer will always have his own preferences of things. The only way for bias to be eliminated is either the phone is so darn good that there is universal appreciation for it, or the phone is so crappy that it is universally despised. To date, no such thing. The past 4 pages of arguing and nonsense still boil down to personal preference, full stop. HTC One is better? Go for it. XZ is awesome? Break a leg. It's up to you. Continuing any of these arguments is pointless and a waste of time, because no one here is willing to change their points of view.

I agree with most of the things you said except for the screen. You say most reviews are bias, yes and no. But every review i read said that the screen on the Z is washed out. Hell i said that the screen on the Z was washed out when it was announced way before the reviews came out and folks here called me crazy cause they have some type of love for sony. Turns out i was right, even looking straight at the screen, its washed out. Once again, this video says it all, you cannot possibly deny it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGYpo4_afI


Now if you're ok with it then good for you/ya'll, im not tying to make you guys dislike the phone but the FACT remains that the screen is washed out ( not accurate colors like some will try to say, look at the blacks on that vid and tell me if thats what black is supposed to look like), thats the only point im making.

 

[fahad2mail]

I actually really do not care about the washed out color of xz. I use both note 2 and xz but when I go outside I prefer xz cause of portability. Also need to mention that in Bangladesh it's rainy season now. I feel much more safe with xz than note 2 in this weather. And ya compare to note 2 the screen like washed out but I believe this is the accurate color. Samsung is making many people believe that oversaturated color is good and they believe it. Those people can't enjoy laptop display, LCD or led tv, or other LCD mobile. And I do not like it. Even after this, I will buy s4 when that available to Samsung showroom. Not cause of display but the functions. And eventually will buy note 3. I do not hate Samsung, I like everything of them except display. Even if you select movie mode or normal mode it can't produce accurate color. I think it's the drawback of smiled. Other than that if you really want eye catching color, smiled has no match out there. I am satisfied with both mobile. And you should too. Do not argue what it can do or what not. Just ask yourself that you are satisfied or not. If yes no need to argue. If not change it. Nobody is forcing you. Thanks.

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[wyterabitt]

Now if you're ok with it then good for you/ya'll, im not tying to make you guys dislike the phone but the FACT remains that the screen is washed out ( not accurate colors like some will try to say, look at the blacks on that vid and tell me if thats what black is supposed to look like), thats the only point im making.

It is not a fact, it is a subjective opinion you have made - at leat for now (im not arguing one way or the other but it is certainly not a fact).

Also, are you sure that screen is supposed to be black? Because I just opened up the service test and went to black, and scrolled between that Chrome screen and the actual black it can display and they are not even close to being the same - the Chrome screen is supposed to be grey as far as I can tell which would put at least one of the other screens as failing that test.

 

[barondebxl]

It is not a fact, it is a subjective opinion you have made - at leat for now (im not arguing one way or the other but it is certainly not a fact).

Also, are you sure that screen is supposed to be black? Because I just opened up the service test and went to black, and scrolled between that Chrome screen and the actual black it can display and they are not even close to being the same - the Chrome screen is supposed to be grey as far as I can tell which would put the other screens as failing that test.

I mean seriously? You have got to be kidding right? Have you watched that vid? the part where all 3 phones are at the youtube part and the display is suppose to be black but its greyish on the Z? Subjective my a%&.